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On 6/7/2023 at 2:43 PM, Ric said:

Nice marbles, Dave. The first is my favorite. I'd like to see a pic of that Alox bag too!

Hi Ric thx 👍here is the bag ,Ron S had a look and though they we’re Alox he could not give me the 100% by just the pics 

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11 hours ago, Dave 13 said:

Hi Ric thx 👍here is the bag ,Ron S had a look and though they we’re Alox he could not give me the 100% by just the pics

It's a nice bag - this particular type is kind of tricky though. Many headers and bags were put together with surplus stock after Alox was sold off. Some of that stock was certainly Alox but some of it was not, since Alox bought marbles from some WV companies too. When Alox was operating, they also filled these bags with Alox and/or other makers marbles so it can be near impossible to tell exactly what you're looking at. Even now, you can usually find Alox headers available on EBay.

Having said that, your bag looks like it could have been filled by the company, at least to me, which does not mean that there are no Ravenswood marbles in there. 🙂

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On 6/14/2023 at 10:27 PM, Dave 13 said:

Hi Ric thx 👍here is the bag ,Ron S had a look and though they we’re Alox he could not give me the 100% by just the pics 

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True that. It's very difficult for the newish looking bags and labels out there to be sure if Alox made what.

I stumbled on this bag, it think it was Amana 2002 when I bought it. I had some misgivings regarding these types of bags, but they are a little different than the mixed swirls like yours. Sorted with the 3 different colors, Shades of amber, blue and green that are about the same as slags were made in. The total of each color in the bag is almost equal as a set or purposely filed bag would be. The amount of white in every marble is just about the same that qualifies as a pattern in all.

I see some just like mine in your bag and those with different colors appear to have the same pattern or flow of measured, via their gob feeder or automatic system, amount of glass too.

To that effect and potential time frame and or who  made, the majority of yours look the same. And, those that may appear like a Ravenswood might be only different looking because it could merely be reverse, with more white than transparent. In terms of base glass, it would not surprise me one bit, and potentially a simple thing for study in al types of marbles; it's the only difference, that more or mostly white means it's the base and those mostly transparent is the reverse feeding of the stream.

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1 hour ago, Jeff54 said:

True that. It's very difficult for the newish looking bags and labels out there to be sure if Alox made what.

Nice example of an original Alox bag filled with Alox marbles, Jeff.

Are the staples in the header the rectangular (flat) type or the round type?

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On 6/16/2023 at 10:10 AM, Ric said:

Nice example of an original Alox bag filled with Alox marbles, Jeff.

Are the staples in the header the rectangular (flat) type or the round type?

It was put away long ago but I checked, never removed as the mesh bag is loose at bottom and staples not flat, they are round  standard type.

Yet, my point in post is about the types of swirl, other than color, the white in the marbles is 'Wadded into a ball' type of swirl. For that, while I cannot see well enough through @Dave 13's bag they look to be the same type of swirl.

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Hi here is 3 out of the my bag and a pic of the staples they look rectangular, il post a few more of the mibs later 👍 Cool bag Jeff ,on mine the mesh got weak on the side and marbles started rolling out I think I half caused that from handling the bag to many times to try to look at the mibs ,there was no hole when I got the bag 

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10 hours ago, Dave 13 said:

Hi here is 3 out of the my bag and a pic of the staples they look rectangular . . .

The marbles look Alox, Dave, but the staples don't look flat to me. Flat staples look more like a rectangular steel "bar".

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On 6/17/2023 at 9:54 PM, Dave 13 said:

Hi here is 3 out of the my bag and a pic of the staples they look rectangular, il post a few more of the mibs later 👍 Cool bag Jeff ,on mine the mesh got weak on the side and marbles started rolling out I think I half caused that from handling the bag to many times to try to look at the mibs ,there was no hole when I got the bag 

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These do look similar, but not so sure they'll fit the 'Wadded into to a ball' construction. That is a term I came up with very long ago, whenever this site was called: 'Say your Piece'. Albeit even so I did not exactly like it as I'd also thought it a little derogatory. Regardless, it seemed to work for folks to help see and understand the meandering string or ribbon in wire pulls and different swirl verities as an unbroken string from the cut off end to the other. In transparent, if you concentrate on it you may  see it while with more solid it can be difficult which takes a good bit of imagination.

So, in yours, I cannot be sure that's what's happening as this and others do not appear to have the same unbroken ribbon that mine do. It looks like there are too many cut areas but those may just have folded there and diving into it. Maybe the lighter colors show better and you can follow the ribbon? And once you get the knack for how to find it, then maybe began to do it in more opaques verities that are mostly white or  reverse base. 

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