Swirl For ID

[Greeneyesgreenthumbs]

Nice 5-Color Swirl. The Colors Make Me Think It’s Champion Agate? Not 100% Though So Any Input Is Appreciated Marble Measures 0.62” Inches In Diameter. Is This A Turkey Swirl? Thanks For a your Time 

[Ric]

I think it's a nice example of a Pennsboro Alley.

[Chad G.]

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[wvrons]

X3 Alley from Sistersville and Pennsboro locations. Not sure what a turkey swirl is ? 

[akroorka]

1 hour ago, wvrons said:

Not sure what a turkey swirl is ? 

Well in this case it is one that you want to "gobble"up😁----nice marble--

Marble--On!!

[Greeneyesgreenthumbs]

Thanks everyone! 
 

On 4/1/2022 at 2:07 PM, wvrons said:

X3 Alley from Sistersville and Pennsboro locations. Not sure what a turkey swirl is ? 

Really? I’m a novice by all standards set here and I’ve heard of a Turkey Swirl. Here’s a quote from The Marble Alan Homepage. I’ve found the information here accurate and extremely useful.  

QUOTE

   “Usually the swirling on Christensen swirls is random, excepting flames and Layered Sand examples. Quite often, however, the swirls will form a loop known to collectors as a "turkey." These truly do resemble the head of a turkey, in that they swirl upward from an oblique angle, then loop back around in the opposite direction, and finally parallel the beginning of the swirl. Rarely, turkey swirls will even have an "eye" of a third color.”

Now the reference here is to CAC marbles. But I’ve seen the same pattern in the swirl’s of other manufacturers. I’m just hesitant to call something a Turkey when there’s certain criteria to meet which I’m not experienced at seeing yet as a novice. That’s why I was asking if this one met the criteria? 

[Ric]

16 minutes ago, Greeneyesgreenthumbs said:

Thanks everyone! 
 

Really? I’m a novice by all standards set here and I’ve heard of a Turkey Swirl. Here’s a quote from The Marble Alan Homepage. I’ve found the information here accurate and extremely useful.  

QUOTE

   “Usually the swirling on Christensen swirls is random, excepting flames and Layered Sand examples. Quite often, however, the swirls will form a loop known to collectors as a "turkey." These truly do resemble the head of a turkey, in that they swirl upward from an oblique angle, then loop back around in the opposite direction, and finally parallel the beginning of the swirl. Rarely, turkey swirls will even have an "eye" of a third color.”

Now the reference here is to CAC marbles. But I’ve seen the same pattern in the swirl’s of other manufacturers. I’m just hesitant to call something a Turkey when there’s certain criteria to meet which I’m not experienced at seeing yet as a novice. That’s why I was asking if this one met the criteria? 

I have never heard the term "Turkey Swirl" in reference to particular marble either. I think the confusion comes because the term "Turkey" or "Turkey Head" is commonly associated with a certain "Turkey" pattern on CAC marbles, as your reference says, but there is no marble referred to as a "Turkey Swirl". Regardless, your marble is not a CAC, it's an Alley, and Alley can display their own pattern often referred to as a "bird head", although the pattern in your first photo does sort of resemble the "Turkey Head" often seen on CACs. I think the author of your reference is referring to the "turkey swirl" pattern in the last sentence and not to a particular type of marble. CAC swirls are random and those with identical color combinations can vary - some might show the "turkey head" pattern while others do not, and a CAC swirl with a turkey head pattern is not usually referred to as a "Turkey Swirl". I hope this helps clarify the terminology.

[Greeneyesgreenthumbs]

4 minutes ago, Ric said:

I have never heard the term "Turkey Swirl" in reference to particular marble either. I think the confusion comes because the term "Turkey" or "Turkey Head" is commonly associated with a certain "Turkey" pattern on CAC marbles, as your reference says, but there is no marble referred to as a "Turkey Swirl". Regardless, your marble is not a CAC, it's an Alley, and Alley can display their own pattern often referred to as a "bird head", although the pattern in your first photo does sort of resemble the "Turkey Head" often seen on CACs. I think the author of your reference is referring to the "turkey swirl" pattern in the last sentence and not to a particular type of marble. CAC swirls are random and those with identical color combinations can vary - some might show the "turkey head" pattern while others do not, and a CAC swirl with a turkey head pattern is not usually referred to as a "Turkey Swirl". I hope this helps clarify the terminology.”

 

 

my phrasing caused me to be misunderstood somewhat here. I was referring to the swirling pattern on this Alley As being a Turkey swirl pattern not calling the marble by the Name Turkey Swirl……confusing myself here lol. But thank you for the clarification I do appreciate any input as I’m soaking it up in buckets full. 

[Ric]

1 minute ago, Greeneyesgreenthumbs said:

6 minutes ago, Ric said:

I have never heard the term "Turkey Swirl" in reference to particular marble either. I think the confusion comes because the term "Turkey" or "Turkey Head" is commonly associated with a certain "Turkey" pattern on CAC marbles, as your reference says, but there is no marble referred to as a "Turkey Swirl". Regardless, your marble is not a CAC, it's an Alley, and Alley can display their own pattern often referred to as a "bird head", although the pattern in your first photo does sort of resemble the "Turkey Head" often seen on CACs. I think the author of your reference is referring to the "turkey swirl" pattern in the last sentence and not to a particular type of marble. CAC swirls are random and those with identical color combinations can vary - some might show the "turkey head" pattern while others do not, and a CAC swirl with a turkey head pattern is not usually referred to as a "Turkey Swirl". I hope this helps clarify the terminology.i think I was misunderstood some what here. I was referring to the swirling pattern on this Alley As being a Turkey swirl pattern not calling the marble by the Name Turkey Swirl……confusing myself here lol. But thank you for the clarification I do appreciate any input as I’m soaking it up in buckets full. 

It's NBD, that's for sure. Although, I do think using the term "Turkey Head" rather than "Turkey Swirl" when referring to that turkey head pattern will make your meaning more clear. 🙂

[Greeneyesgreenthumbs]

Probably so I need to say that ten times fast to make it stick in my mind Turkey Head Turkey Head Turkey Head Turkey Leg 

[Chad G.]

17 hours ago, Greeneyesgreenthumbs said:

Probably so I need to say that ten times fast to make it stick in my mind Turkey Head Turkey Head Turkey Head Turkey Leg 

...  chicken wing  .... 

[wvrons]

True CAC Turkey Head.   If you try hard enough 50% of all swirl patterns may have a twist curve or hook that looks like some part or all of a Turkey Head. But most of those are small and vary a lot. Turkey Head is normally associated with CAC marbles and it is not rare.  Years ago it did increase some value on CAC swirls. Then it got widespread that many other swirl companies also had patterns that looked like a turkey head. But many of them are smaller than true CAC Turkey Head swirls. I do not add $1.00 more value for with or without a turkey head pattern.  I don't like to buy names.