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A bit late for this party but: With respect to Ron's adventures in digging up old sites and virtually getting to the bottom of many WV swirls, fraid I have to disagree on the Alley Strawberry shortcake thoughts.  And get back to how it fits into the CAC and maybe into the Akro H-G category. . Boy, I've had a mint set for many years where you have this tan ribbon with a transparent red or orange and clean bright white and only recently noticed ya'll found a place I can file em. 

So, lets start what's different: Transparent red/orange lines,: Chicken diner on that. Tanish color, like the red and white all, always remain reasonably separate; add some salt and pepper to spice the chicken and the table is ready. That's why I picked out a set many years ago, wondering if CAC or what? Variations of this style got added in my tray through the years, where some blending of the white gets into the red and becomes even better looking but they all fit, for the transparent line, to one maker with the tan and bright white. No photos but found on the net derived from WV marbles site There you have it: Three colors that, for the most part, remain separated enough to distinguish OP's blended as in; mixed in one bucket (Tank) which is not how an Alley Strawberry shortcake was created.

 

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Here's another at Grandpa's site which is the same three colors too, Link: gm1973 MINT 19/32" Alley Agate Co. STRAWBERRY SHORTCAKE Swirl (grandpamarble.com)

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I disagree with the one on Grandpa's site being a Shortcake. I do not see enough light tan or creme color. I do not see enough red thinning to the pink. I don't think strawberry shortcake has orange. Alley Strawbery short cake is a white base with one or two other colors added, red and tan or thin brown. Very little or no clear, usually opaque. The red thins overtop of the white which makes the red look pink. Sometimes that same thin red can spread thin enough over the white to look tan or light brown. I was not there so I am not sure exactly how the Alleys or CAC were made. I have read and been told that both were single stream methods. Glass colors do not blend or mix to make a brand new color. Glass colors do not blend like paint to make a new different color. I have not seen any pictures, diagrams, etc. of any furnace or tank used by Alley or CAC. None that I could see or say what was happening.  I would be interested any time as exactly how Alley created the what is called the Shortcake marbles. They are just swirled marbles with Strawberry Shortcake colors.  The cake is a light tan, light brown, light yellow, the red is the strawberries and they and the syrup thins to a pink color, The white is the whipped creme or topping.  For me the strawberry short cake swirl needs white, red, pink and small amounts of light tan or brown. I do not connect orange at all with strawberry shortcake. I ate strawberries today, I did not see any orange or red/orange.  

I just do not see enough CAC traits or Akro traits with the op to place it either place.  Does the H-G category mean hand gather ?   I do not see any hand gathered marbles pictured in this thread.  CAC is known for their colors not thinning, bleeding or what ever you label it. They are known for their colors staying true, sharp edges, separated.  The op does the opposite of that.  There are variations in Alley Shortcake marbles. Of course because they were made at different times and probably different cullet.  A Alley swirl with white-red going to pink-light brown. The pink should be connected to the original red.  

Who mixed colors in one bucket or tank ? Is that a single stream method ? Most or all WV swirl companies used the single stream method.  Colors not preheated or heated outside the main furnace ,are added to the inside of one single furnace.  

 

Chicken dinner for a good discussion.  No doubt some one will lean something, maybe myself. 

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