Mojo Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 Very bad wounded warriors ID would be nice tho Anyone have an idea Last picture is a beat up transitional i think The blue and white makes me think Pelt And the first one , german opaque striped but really not sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 Wow. These are tough. The first one, to me, does`nt have some of the main characteristics of a German that I look for. Here the seams meet exactly and on the Germans there is usually a noticeable gap. Plus there`s a lot more white (or color in the opaque) than the German Machine-mades usually have. And what`s that weird "tongue" in the upper right pic? More or less the same for the blue one. Plus side view is a little curvier. Last one looks like a painted china - - but not like one I`ve ever seen, and I collect them in a mild way. A corkscrew?? whaa?? Long story short, I have no secure way to call any of them. We both await other knowledge from someone else here. Maybe! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 They could be US, but who? Akro didn`t do machine-made slags. They`re sure not Peltier. Only thing left is CAC, but they`re not typical for CAC either. I throw up my hands. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroorka Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 The red slag is a very nice looker👀 and could be argued for years to come. The blue slag???? I think that you have the third one right Mojo. Marble--On!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted October 27, 2022 Report Share Posted October 27, 2022 Yep. I like the red one too - - - 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 Joep you always have the crazy mibs ... love em..💥💥👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 Me too! Check out the "corkscrew" closely. You`ll see the crazing of a typical glazed china. It`s ceramic, not glass, which throws it out of the transitionai group. Pretty conclusively. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Posted October 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 56 minutes ago, ann said: Me too! Check out the "corkscrew" closely. You`ll see the crazing of a typical glazed china. It`s ceramic, not glass, which throws it out of the transitionai group. Pretty conclusively. Yes the "cork" is stone ish , defenitly not glass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Posted October 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 1 hour ago, ann said: Me too! Check out the "corkscrew" closely. You`ll see the crazing of a typical glazed china. It`s ceramic, not glass, which throws it out of the transitionai group. Pretty conclusively. And maybe....just maybe this is the same type ? The pattern of the "cork" looks the same A yashuda transitional in a mutch better condition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jzoook6 Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 13 hours ago, Mojo said: Very bad wounded warriors ID would be nice tho Anyone have an idea Last picture is a beat up transitional i think The blue and white makes me think Pelt And the first one , german opaque striped but really not sure So cool! how big is the top red one if you know or could guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Posted October 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jzoook6 said: So cool! how big is the top red one if you know or could guess? 18mm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Posted October 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 Found one that Matches this one ?? 🍿 pas me the popcorn 🤯🥳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 Wow - what a weird match - a Yasuda??? Well, it looks like that - but who would go to the expense and trouble of reproducing a Yasuda-inspired glazed china? Not worth it. Plus I think the Chinas were too early for that. The two slags - You know what I think? I think there was some other marble company (or companies) running around Europe 1920 - 1950 that none of us know about. Yet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantucketdink Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 I think guessing German slags on the first 2 would be the safest guess. No I don’t have ones resembling either, but it’s a logical guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantucketdink Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 Well maybe I do have some similar blue German slags 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted October 28, 2022 Report Share Posted October 28, 2022 It should be a logical guess, but unfortunately neither has the character traits of a German = large gapes where the seams meet, very straight white slag lines on/near the surface, not a lot of internal action (but some, occasionally), and viewed from the side shows very straight, not curved "half-moon" shapes. It`s one of the ways you can tell them from a CAC slag. CACs always have some (and sometimes more) curvy-ness there. And I do have a lot of machine-made German slags. Not the same number as CACs, unfortunately. But that`s why I just can`t go there, to the Germans. I wish I could, but there`s just not anything there that should be. I still think there`s a marble company in Europe we don`t know about yet. It would fill the bill! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantucketdink Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 How big are the red and blue slags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jzoook6 Posted October 29, 2022 Report Share Posted October 29, 2022 I thought this one looked similar to yours but I am not sure now. Feels like its a rough gritty rock and not glass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantucketdink Posted October 30, 2022 Report Share Posted October 30, 2022 Mojo-would you please measure the 2 slags for us. I am interested in following through with your ids in more detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Posted November 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 On 10/30/2022 at 5:21 PM, Nantucketdink said: Mojo-would you please measure the 2 slags for us. I am interested in following through with your ids in more detail The red one is 20mm The blue one 19mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantucketdink Posted November 1, 2022 Report Share Posted November 1, 2022 That is extremely helpful info. So both are about 3/4”. The German striped transparent/opaques that I find all seem to be in the close to one inch size. I have a few in the 3/4” size, but you can tell they are a different type than the bigger ones. The German slag sizes are all over the place and feel like there may be 2 or more makers. It would be great to figure out how many different slag makers there were in Europe. I have no problem believing there could have been a French maker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 Europeans and a really beat Japanese transitional is what I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantucketdink Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 I took some pics of some German slags in the 3/4” range that show some slightly non typical traits. None seem like a match but it’s always nice to see different patterns. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nantucketdink Posted November 2, 2022 Report Share Posted November 2, 2022 All my purple German slags are under 3/4”. Interesting. Anybody have big (3/4” plus) purple German slags? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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