Revisiting this "Asian" Marble

[marblemanvintagemarbles]

I've not been able to accept the Asian identification I received on this marble. I just know I've never seen any seams like this on an Asian marble. So I found this post in another forum detailing pictures of kokomo marbles. And I believe i found the marble I have besides the green but i know they did use green.  

[Al Oregon]

That 3rd color is what swings it to foreign for me.

[akroorka]

I still agree with Al here.

This one is from a box of Imperials--the marbles were made by many different companies from many different countries--non from the USA.

I have attempted to turn a Jabo into an Akro Corkscrew a few times--I ended up wrong and educated as well.

There are no bad questions here at "TheMarbleConnection"

All opinions are appreciated on this one.

Marble--On!!

[marblemanvintagemarbles]

I have just never seen any Asian marbles with such a seam as the the way these ones are. These have that exact peltier type seam with the jagged little cut marks that kokomo is known to show on their marbles. I have a lot of imperial marbles and they all tend to have the somewhat pointy v shaped seams. Sometimes more u shaped but never as wide as the u is in those 2 mibs 

[marblemanvintagemarbles]

I posted this one in the kokomo Facebook group and someone agreed they thought it was kokomo 

[Ric]

Some people agree the earth is flat too.

[Carowill]

😂😂😂

[davesnothere]

Asian the creased seam and colors. I've been schooled too, watch the seams

[marblemanvintagemarbles]

Well I've had more than 1 agree on the kokomo group. This is not an Asian made marble. Show me an Asian made marble with these exact shaped seams. I've not seen one before. I'm definelty not a flat earther. I've actually picked up quite a bit of marble knowledge and I know that this is not an Asian. Possibly foreign but unlikely as someone just gave a definite id opinion and he knows kokomo marbles very well.  I agree the colors make your 1st thoughts jump to Asian however they are not the right tint imo.  But those seams and the shapes of them are not even close to any Asian marble ive ever seen. That right there eliminates Asian possibilities.  They may have those little jagged ✂️ lines but kokomo is known for that to be on a lot of their marbles. 

[Fire1981]

If that’s is AV in the green ribbon I’m going with Vitro. Whhaaaat? I had to throw that in the mix. 🔥

RAR🤪

[Ric]

10 hours ago, marblemanvintagemarbles said:

Well I've had more than 1 agree on the kokomo group . . .

This is not an Asian made marble. Show me an Asian made marble with these exact shaped seams. I've not seen one before. I'm definelty not a flat earther. I've actually picked up quite a bit of marble knowledge and I know that this is not an Asian. Possibly foreign but unlikely as someone just gave a definite id opinion and he knows kokomo marbles very well.  I agree the colors make your 1st thoughts jump to Asian however they are not the right tint imo.  But those seams and the shapes of them are not even close to any Asian marble ive ever seen. That right there eliminates Asian possibilities.  They may have those little jagged ✂️ lines but kokomo is known for that to be on a lot of their marbles. 

With respect to my comment, I did not mean anything personal toward you and I am sorry that it came out that way. What I meant was that with marbles like this it's likely you will have multiple groups of people who agree on different IDs - there are several potential makers in the mix. I personally think Kokomo is on the lower end of the scale of possibilities. At the upper end, I have Marble King and foreign. I have seen many of the latter with three neat ribbons of different colors and I do not think that the nice seams on your marble rule them out, so that is the way I am leaning.

Just my two cents, please take it for what it's worth.

🙂

 

[davesnothere]

 Mexican made imperials seams match this very well everyone slightly different. Honestly I've thrown out 50lbs pounds of these.

Just trying to share my knowledge and be helpful here.

Kokomo marbles are so rare and localized finding and IDS almost impossible with photos imo.

Is the glass bubbly they used discarded glass. Does the yellow glow another trait.

 

[cheese]

It's Asian all day. If you haven't seen any like it yet in your very short time dealing with marbles, that doesn't make it so. I've collected since the 1980s and still see things I haven't seen before. I have a jar of these I keep around and put the rest in tubs full of marbles to give kids at marble shows. On facebook groups you'll find people who will agree with anything. 

[marblemanvintagemarbles]

Could they possibly be made in Mexico? Everytime i come across this marble in the mix of marbles i it's with the seams are so similar to like vitro or peltier i set it aside with the marbles I think are nice USA marbles as I sort through the bag it's in. Or whatever container It ended up in the u shape is dramatically wide and I feel like I've invested a considerable amount of time into just sorting marbles. Literally i spend most of every day searching through my collection (and it's grown to be a huge pain in a arse due to its size) or driving out to leads on marbles. It's become my priority.  I have sorted through thousands of Asian marbles. I've never seen such a dramatically wide shaped u on one until I've found this one. I know it's very hard to decipher between all opinions you receive on a marble as you said a lot of times people will agree with anything or stick to their guns but I've tried my best to plead my case on the marble. We can go ahead and lock this one up and send it to the pokey. It's guilty of foreign affairs. Lol. 

[Ric]

I could maybe see Mexico but I am still leaning Asian - some of them can look surprisingly like American marbles.

[YasudaCollector]

Is it maybe a really early Japanese imperial? (like 1950s or 1960s). The Japanese-made imperials seem to be a lot better made. The glass seems crisper in those marbles than the later Chinese or Mexican imperials. Also, I've looked in @shiroaiko's marble book, and there are some Japanese marbles that look almost exactly like pelts. 

[marblemanvintagemarbles]

Just now, YasudaCollector said:

Is it maybe a really early Japanese imperial? (like 1950s or 1960s). The Japanese-made imperials seem to be a lot better made. The glass seems crisper in those marbles than the later Chinese or Mexican imperials. Also, I've looked in @shiroaiko's marble book, and there are some Japanese marbles that look almost exactly like pelts. 

That's sounds to be like the most plausible theory in this marble. It's so nice compared to any Asian or Mexican i can recall. 

[Melissa]

Asian