lstmmrbls Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 that's amazing on so many levels. It looks like some exotic plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal3 Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 It's got a face-hugger on it! Quick! Eject it from your collection! I know JUST the place lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted September 5, 2017 Report Share Posted September 5, 2017 I like the octopus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 sweet pattern, lovin' it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie_T Posted September 6, 2017 Report Share Posted September 6, 2017 Golly, what a fine marble! I mean that little joker is DROP DEAD GORGEOUS..... I think I am just going to sit and look at your picture for a few minutes and admire the craftsmanship that created a beauty like that. I want one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted September 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 It is the fact that pure randomness could form such an exotic pattern that gets me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 No doubt, a lot of the craftsmanship is in setting up the process in a way that increases the probability of producing a marble with an awesome pattern like this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted September 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 I wonder if anyone was allowed or bothered to take the extra time to fiddle around with the machinery To try and make patterns at the time they were simply making marbles to stuff in bags or boxes for kids to beat up?? Personally I do not believe so. Heck even Jabo (until recently for collectors) or Champion hardly tried to manipulate for fancy patterns.. Even the cool wirepulls made at Champion were a happy accident. IMO If patterns were a sought after product I would have to believe multiswirled corks would be more common than single twists Or flames would be more common than simple swirls. I think it is just the collector that places a real value to the killer patterns not so much kid putting them in the ring. I could be totally off base but it just seems like it was the adults that really gave(give) value to killer patterns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted September 7, 2017 Report Share Posted September 7, 2017 I'm guessing they at least were conscious enough of it that they would have decided that a busy swirl would be more interesting to the kids than a single little loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 I'd wager the mass production of the items probably lent little time/desire to 'fiddle around with the machinery' and specifically tweak the patterns Where the neat patterns/value came into play, would be on the schoolyard, or trading marbles. Back in my day (geez I'm starting to sound like and old man) a cool pattern/color was more desirable than a plain(er) type even from the same manufacturer. Hence, some of the nice pattern ones were damaged because they saw a lot of action as some kids favorite. But I'd estimate 1/100 or even 1/1000 from some manufacturers really stood out compared to their more generic counterparts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted September 8, 2017 Report Share Posted September 8, 2017 Are you suggesting they just threw it all together and hoped for the best? That they didn't want to distinguish themselves from the competition? That brand had no meaning? That seems unlikely to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted September 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 I think they did it in a way to make the most marbles as quickly as they could with no effort to increase the "flame" look that we find desirable. I know CAC boxers and Alley owners found the busy patterns interesting but I really do not believe equipment was manipulated to increase the likelihood of nice flame patterns. Totally accidental IMHO. Just a side effect of making marbles with a small glass stream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted September 9, 2017 Report Share Posted September 9, 2017 Yea, I'm not suggesting it was like "let's start making sweet flames now" or "let's switch over to octopi". They are random swirls, no doubt, chance is most of it with respect to any particular pattern. I was only suggesting that a good glass team could setup their tanks, stream and shear operations to tilt the odds towards producing the kind of marbles they wanted. I doubt Alley wanted his marbles to look like Christensen's or vice versa. Surely, companies tried to distinguish themselves with glass quality and colors too. Isn't that why we can still distinguish many of them today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted September 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2017 Neat part of Arnolds contract with Peltier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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