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Since you weren't aware of I culls, what do you think the diggers dig?

Why not heed your own advice? I do agree that you are dysfunctional.

The responsibility is two fold. First the seller has an ethical responsibility to list and describe them properly. That means if a marble is technically mint, but not mint as they would want if they were the buyer, they should not list it as mint. Secondly, the buyer should ask questions if there is any doubt snd if the doubt is not cleared up, the buyer should not buy the piece. No one can make anyone else bid. So I recommend that when in doubt, don't bid! This morning I got an order for some marbles. It was simply. "please send me $200 worth." It was a standard order from this customer. Do you think I have a moral obligation to do well by this person? I sure do! And if I don't honor this obligation, do you think this customer will continue to do businmess with me? Of course not.

God bless you and your son Duff!

Marbles are not an investment. The marbles from the private runs are not the property or responsibilty of JABO. They were all a forward sale! The definition of mint marbles is awful. There are really two definitions:1) mint by definition and 2) mint by expectation. If you don't like the definition, change it or ask the seller questions. If you get bad marbles from anyone, return them, renegotiate price, or send them back. There never was nor ever will be a correlation between the stock market and the marble "market". There are requirements for stocks to be "listed". There are no such requirements for mibs. Markets do not go up because buyers bid. they go up because sellers realize (believe) their asset is more valuable and hence raise their offering price. Anyone who has a better idea of how to run this or any company can buy it.I'dlike to tell eBay and chat board mods a think or two...oh well...it's their ball. No one can tell another what to do with his assets. Price fixing is a violation of the Sherman Anti-trust Act and a felony. There is a book that has all the data of numbbers of marbles at each run. Value is easily explained by telling about employees and employers. As an employer, it is my job to hire the best person for the job at the least amount of money. As an employee, it is my job to get highest pay I can for my skill set. The same sort of thing is true of marbles. There is a huge difference between market theory and marketing and the twains shall never meet. I will tell anybody who wants to know about the runs anything I know. Just call me. The goals of these runs were and are still simple. The first goal was to keep jobs on shore. We have done that. We have 10 jobs that haven't gone off-shore. The other goal was to try to make the prettiest marbles ever made. Some think this goal has been met. Others disagree. Since the idea of "time sharing" the machines was mine and since I have put together fou runs and helped organize another, I do have alot od skin in the game and am happy to tell anything that is mine to tell to all who ask.

As always, you elide over the facts that you presented when caught in a lie.Both David and Beri stood there and with their permission I taped what they had to say. Both say it never happened. David never turned down any offer for a sale of assets to Beri.Both also observed thet he cannot even if he wanted to. So as you told us above, you have told the truth and they have not.

Today in the JABO factory, David, Beri, Edna, and I stood together and I asked about Galen's statement that David turned down her offer. Both David and Beri said it never occurred. Both also said that David could not make such a decision nor would he. I think someone owes us all an apology for making up and spreading lies. By the way, if anyone does not believe what I have said here, please feel free to call me and I will be glad to play the tape recording of the conversation for you.

Ohio marble maker to make final run By MICHAEL SANGIACOMO The (Cleveland) Plain Dealer MARIETTA, Ohio (AP) -- David McCullough will say a little prayer early Monday, fire up a massive gas furnace for perhaps the last time and do what he does best - produce pretty marbles. McCullough may have to work his magic on the furnace, which has sat idle for months in Jabo Inc.'s tiny factory near Marietta. Jabo is the last marble maker in Ohio. McCullough hopes to produce up to 120,000 one-inch marbles for a group of collectors from across the United States and Canada. McCullough, a retired marble master, will do the job for free. The collectors put up the money to run the beat-up furnace for one last time. "The furnace is badly in need of repair, and the repairs are far too expensive," he said. "Actually, I don't even know if it can be repaired. I gave up on it more than a year ago. But I think I can coax one more run out of it." In the first half of the 20th century, Ohio was the marble-producing capital of the world, with dozens of companies making millions of marbles for schoolchildren. But children don't play with marbles much anymore. Besides Jabo, there is only one other marble factory in the United States, in West Virginia. McCullough said Jabo has been for sale for several years. He said it mostly produces industrial marbles for use in spray paint cans, oil wells and water purification equipment. It's rare that he gets to create marbles that people will see. "We just can't afford it," he said. "But every now and then, collectors pay us to make a run. They give us the money to buy the glass, which now costs a fortune, and we do it." Steve Sturtz, a marble collector from Kingston, Ontario, who has written several books on the subject, is happy they do. He is one of several dozen collectors who will be at the Jabo plant to watch the molten marbles roll out of the furnace and take on different colors as they cool. "No one makes marbles like David," Sturtz said. "He's an artist. His colors are incredible; he does things with marbles that no one else can do. We're just excited that he's going to make a one-inch run for us." Many people call McCullough a genius and an artist, notions he just laughs off. "The perception is better than the reality," McCullough said. "I just dump colors and other things into a vat of molten glass and hope pretty marbles come out. It's a lot of guesswork, and I am often surprised." The collectors will watch the glass heated in a 2,200-degree furnace. The red-hot liquid glass will drip from the end of the furnace onto a series of rolling coils, where it is shaped into perfect spheres. The marbles quickly cool to 1,800 degrees as they solidify and roll into catch buckets. The buckets are dumped into 6-foot-square crates, which are set in the warehouse to cool for 72 hours. McCullough adds chemicals to the soupy, molten mass and watches what comes out. The color and pattern on each marble is always different and totally unpredictable. He said that when he tries to create a pattern, he fails. The marbles come out the way they want, he said, and like snowflakes, no two are alike. The marbles that will be made Monday will be much larger than the typical marble. In the old days, these marbles would be called shooters. Because they are so much larger, only one of the company's furnaces, or kilns, can handle the job. They will be the first shooters Jabo has made since 2007, the last time the furnace was used. McCullough said the marbles could sell for $10 each. But some, deemed special by collectors, will sell for even more. Sturtz said some of McCullough's creations sell for $100 each to collectors. McCullough is embarrassed by the attention. "I like the collectors," he said. "I wish marbles were used by kids, like they used to. I still want to see the kids play with them; that makes me feel good. I like giving kids bags of marbles and watching their faces light up." --- Information from: The Plain Dealer, http://www.cleveland.com © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Learn more about our Privacy Policy.

As they say at Wimbleton..."Ace for Miss Bogey!

"We sell no swine before its time" said a famous paper hanger at the Merc.

I can tell anything you want to know about which parts are which! So what! I will not. What I have seen are marbles that a third generation Frier made. I don't care if they are pretty or ugly. They are important marbles. Nancy put the run together and the result is now she a part of the marble community and she connected to JABO and Alox. Congrats Nancy and thanks for connecting today with a great marble past and comany name.

Will McCullough show up in Texas? He has been iffy about it for a couple of months. Cross your fingers.

Maybe the Alley boxes were wet and David McCullough had them put in 50 pound Champion boxes...

Alley

Bravo! That chapter in Web's book describes MK Cat making and patch and ribbon making very specifically. Those machines are multi stream and the JABO set up is very similar and also multistream. Yes David, the number two goal of all of these private runs was..."to make the prettiest marbles ever made." I am sure this #2 goal was the second goal because David and I made that part of our mission statement as the second goal. The first goal was to keep jobs on shore and that has been done for 2 and 1/2 years now. Test question: WhICH WAS THE PRETTIEST PRIVATE RUN MADE? The answer is always ..."the next one"....so I guess that means the tank wash yesterday is the prettiest run for now.

Lou, while you are taking care of things, I would like you to put all 4 of my books in your marble book bibliography. Thank you.

JABO and it is Stephanie's bid

AKRO ox

Ann, I agree with you, but I have question. HEY HOTROD, Are these Ravenswood?

"Cateyes are a great example of multiple stream marbles" My point exactly.The delivery system at Marble King for color is internal and it is a multistream machine as you have just said. That is what I've been saying all along. You finally got it. This is all explained in the literature. Not all multistream machines are external feed. They can be either internal or externalfeed. The possible layout of internal feed systems seem to be nearly infinite.

Please define a single stream and a multi stream machine and I think you will find the answer to your own question.

If, as you say, JABO has single strem machines, then they ( the machines) wouldn't be able to make flames... I,too, have talked to David about making flames, but not once or twice...very regularly for 3 years. I think you will start to understand better if you speak with him more regularly. Thank God there is less AV and mica, some of us don't like it much. I think some of your marble suggestions may have some validity, but only when it is your money on the line. Want to sign up for a few grand and share your thoughts and ideas with the guy who is putting the run together? I'll bet you two would have fun at it. Color choices are not something I have ever told David since he, and only he, makes the marbles. Some have seen my weak vintage collections. I sure could use some help doing a better a job. Thanks in advance. You always talk about sales. I'll bet most partners in the runs have sold few. I know for sure that over 60% of three different Tribute Runs are not for sale. Some JABO collectors we might know in common are Marble Alan, Marble Bert, Marlow Peterson, Ron Shepherd,Michael Johnson, Howard Powell. Maybe they can help with the comparison marbles you seek.

mMost of the peopelyou hang out with are also reconized experts in specific areas of marbles. Dr. Alley congrats to you four on your well written thorough Alley article.

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I have posted thes numbers in my book and on the boards even though the "intelligencia" shouted me down. Whether anyone likes it or not here we go. On average, the runs themselves have been about 120,000 marbles,less cold roll marks etc. The tank washes vary because of the small amounts of glass used and I have not tracked them and would be unableto do so, but most are under 1,000 pounds at 96 marbles per pound. Since the experimentals began, JABO has not made 6,000,000 marbles yet. Why 6,000,000? Because that is the average number of Classics made in all the years prior to 2008. To give you some perspective, Peltier made about 130,000,000 champion juniors a year for 10 years. JABO has not made 6,000,000 in three years. All JABOs are rare because of the small numbers produced. If memory serves me and I am too lazy to look it up, the total production of Classics from 1991 until the factory "closed forever" on Nov 27, 2007 was about 52 or 57,000,000 marbles. The largest single number of marbles in one Family of which I am aware is about 60,000 Danny Boys.S ome families are in very very small numbers (fewer than 100). Like every marble maker, not all are what we would consider collectible. But, the percentage of collectible marbles versus other makers is very big. For most makers, the percentage of marbles collectors keep is in the 1 to 3% range. For JABO,it appears that this number will turn out to be in the 25 to 35% range in the future. The runs since 2008 have really been a whose who of sophisticated collectors, club presidents, authors, industry "angels" regardless of the drivel on the chat boards. I have always been amazed since I got involved in JABO, to find the names who have collected them from the very early days. Before these runs are all over, they will have included people involved in the ownership and history of Marble King, Pelt, Ravenswood, Alox, Alley and last week Kokomo. As for pics, there are lots around. As soon as Joe Street gets to it and he is very busy (over 3,000) hours invested in his web site already) he will be posting hundreds of JABOs at joemarbles.com. He has 3 or 4 10 gallon tubs of JABOs at his home to be photographed and posted. These mibs are separated by year and also by experimental run, but I know not how he is going to post them. As for me, I have learned alot about JABO in the last three years. BUT, I have learned even more about, Pelt, Alley, Cairo, Kokomo and Marble King. I am glad to have gotten interested in machine mades after having collected Germans since the 'early 60s. A novice collector made the observation of the year last year when she said that older marbles are "almost pretty enough to be a JABO..."