marbleus1

more from ole pics. david a couple of huge dont have one anymore - ole dug stuff anywaylol dug some fractures, I love these, have some in fair shape dug also not this baby

old pic. I probably have some better, but Pelt "nice Pelt" still one of my collection week points. David I sold the rolling stones K&M

I keep most of my mis- buys for one reason or another David quote:"Well guys i guess im the stupid one this time" I'd have to disagree simple ignorance, and looks like ur well on the way to rectifing that lack of. Now for stupid, hang out and watch my dumbass work. David

No baffle Mr Marblemiser my lack of communcation skills and not taking a breath. The word drivel has been used Effectively(sssh cant expose ur weakness) of recent, concerning meanderings, I did a quick search and its not even in this thread..prior to ur use. When I posted, the word was fresh in the mind and poped back out and I've run with it. and it is drivel. quote marbleus1:"Well believe it or not, accept it or not, every breath you take comes with obligation." well believe you/me if your gonna type such drivel lol ya know it bam the word popped in quote marbleus1:"Yea I know drivel - YOU kiss my ass" when I obviously was talking to the word you posted how can I tell you I really wasnt talking to you at the time my most truthful - I was not If you would check after the kiss my ass thing/ sorry the entire post was basically a summary of the Why and was addressing the entirity of a thread, I had beat far as I could, and a final beat down of some of the percieved illogical counterpoints. Your post was much more in the spirit of the board, contained nothing anyone could take issue with and I failed to express myself properly. I am sorry it read that way. David somebody jus told me to quit cussing - shes right thar that kharma Edit: its late and the roany jus posted ahead on page 4 rotflmao the floor I question his answers but aint gonna dare try to top him he use to be here most days!!! two shows a day green/blue ribbon on mine. why am I still on the floor

Steve I reviewed marbos complaint post, but I read it as a complaint not a bash. Proper place? Marbos decision. Complaints come with retailing and all Sellers need to accept that, comes with the territory. and where thay show up ......damnitman comes with the selling. jus does. On the other hand your post was a jab "dysfunctional" could be viewed as a humerous jab but with yalls "history" probably a jab. We All Do It We all need to do better. David I spoke with Mr. Sturtz(psia-Antiques) for 3 hours last night we talked unto the wee hours (lucky for ya'll, kept me off the board) The most enjoyable marble non marble conversation I have had for some time. as I said it will take much effort by all, you to. We could sure use the help?

hear! hear! some gave all god bless David

I often state my opinion could be flawed, it well could be(probably not). That is why I engage, I like to be right(surprised?)and without a test how can it be right. I expected some contention, if you entered this thread so did you! I have tried to moderate my responses to the contention - I asked for it! and long ago I posted my response to the Value question I posed, i might have shared some info and insight with a few. It was my intent. I am guilty of ulterior motives though. I am hauling this dead assed horse out of here, today tomorrow or next year for whatever that means it would be appreciated kindly if ya lend a hand, if I got the wrong end tell me the right. if we bring our disagreements with each other into every thread we will not progress If you have a problem with someone [(not contentious troublesome topics like this, here it should be expected maybe not if we progress) where we are now, yep this topic trouble but for "getting it straight"] take it to the Board of Inquiry. better yet reread be sure, I have to reread the same topics to get it close to "right" and end up wrong. If ya got to be real mean maybe it should be private so you dont come off sounding like......them/me I have been wrong very wrong so has Every poster in this thread and on this board. Yes I do have your back and urs balance lets true her up a mite. david

and me! I hope I have not bashed Jabo, did bash a mite but they were mean to me! lol It is my opinion that Jabo has responsibilities , I dont believe my opinion makes it so. I most certainly appreciate the participation of all and especially those with dramatically differing viewpoints who are still willing to engage even if to humor me. I will not try to argue against the "dead horse" syndrome, stop beat'n makes sense. but the carcuss is smelling up the place and whatever the reason its been here for years now I was gone and it was here try to talk about most anything, next thing ya know the smell. I am in search of the contention enlighten me, where the smell is coming from (lol, yea I set ya, go ahead hit it if it makes ya feel better, freebie) theys some stuff needs working through, dont think so, okay I do The last big fued I was "party" to, I did not do enough to derail it, I had some small influence on some of the players. The only real regret I have ever had on this board is that I did not. So long pointless rambling post - no regrets Not meeting my membership obligations regretful David I know many/maybe most dont feel the same - ur bussiness I'm glad I do I dont actual know much about talk boards but this is the best board on the net and we will make it better Drivel Alert more drivel ahead I promise!! ya got my Word and it has Value saddle the STEED

Most did not I'm to rusty to attempt contemp. but they'll get IDed soon here. david

I collected marbles for a long time, played um as a child. Sometime back I decided to become a marble collector instead. Well believe it or not, accept it or not, every breath you take comes with obligation. Yea I know drivel - YOU kiss my ass So "being" a marble collector differs considerably from collecting. I have to know things, I have to learn things. I have an obligation to myself, to my peers, to those few who think I know something. When I talked about the $1200 10 lbs of New run marbles, I didnt say I overpaid, I got 400/500 marbles, hell I dont know 15/20 collectors sets, tank washes........................ See above, I'm a marble collector Ive been doing my homework, I do know the "value" of theses marbles and I've done as well with these purchases as any. Matteroffact Ive done well enough with what has become a monstorous(to me) collection that if any $1000 or hell $2000 purchase/addition falls completly flat/no value, the collection overall can absorb it and its of no real consequence, cept to Ole marble collector confidence. So again I aint worried about the money. I dont collect for money. Why do I care if some smoe who I dont know spends $36 on a $2 marble We all know I could throw paragragh after paragraph but no, ya making my heart hurt, not as you suspected. and that always pisses me off. Instead How dare you!!! How the hell can YOU NOT care what the hell is wrong with you! it does matter, everything matters and one day when it counts you are going to regret ur callowness ah hell or not No I aint done David act like ya dont get the point of the thread go ahead and if ya dont my most sincerest damnitman if I cared what dyslitic free verse meant I'd probably be inclined to want to thump you a mite since I dont, you okay I most certainly hold you responsible for the words you type as I stand behind mine. Carry On!!! Steve - they most certainly Are Jabo marbles. and of course Jabo has no responsibility nobody does!! - not I do - marble collector I also unfortunatly recently allowed Wall Street to jack us for a 100 trillion or so and am currently involved in filling the Gulf of Mexico with crude Oil. I had obligations I did not fulfill I'd say sorry but it seems insincere!

Cool Beans david

Well maybe there are people who read words that matter. maybe it aint mine but yours maybe during what should be great marble times it aint shaping up the way they envisioned. maybe they will change it. Maybe since its Capitalist in nature and interest has been built and nothing owed. maybe it could be better. maybe not if not jus for those that wrestle thru the numerous threads. Maybe there are marble makers who dont say if you dont like it dont buy my marbles. David quote:"Perhaps you can guide the thread by stating without complaint exactly what you suggest should be done to address the issues that you perceive. I don't see what path you are suggesting." I did, quote marbleus1:" The marbles are as a whole Horribly overpriced. Nothing other than Mint should be allowed to leave the factory considering the prices garnered and Quality touted. That is not the case its buyer beware as to condition, quality and quanity to be produced. If that adds up to more than a .50 to $10 marble under any circumstance I dont know nutt'n bout marbles" quote:"So clarify that sentence for me. Are you saying that by being a "collector" (a potential buyer) that you should be able to dictate some aspects of production/quality control/what is sold/pricing? If so - which and to what degree?" Not me Jabo its their reputation under disscussion. it was two sentences Alan 1st -ur suggestion - dont buy 2nd my response quote marbleus1: "and not buying the marbles probably is the cure are you suggesting for anyone else who may be reading and wants round marbles or just me." By the Way Dave McCullough your dealer reps. they are a rough lot.

damnitman made me cry a little! another response I'm on a tear. lol Okay I buy beat up big boy MFC's jus to get them out of play and in a collection, as likely to hand you a $250 one of a kind vintage marble to keep as a $1 But how the heck yall collect marbles without investing baffles me? it jus does, call it what you want one costly hobby and I really think perspective is needed and if you maybe aint as sharp as the amazing talent around here, then some navigation is helpful thus marble disscussion board. And Dr dont give a shit and Alan says the marbles are worth whatever ur willing to pay marbleus1 says they have the value posted above .50 to $10 and with all things remainig the same the actuall return value can only fall We all agree they are not an investment. if pretty alone is worth $127 in a marble go for it. david

let us know when you hear! david

Alan its a marble disscussion board and the discussion of the price of marbles is an affront on..what again patriotism as a consumer I most certainly do have the right to state what I think, thats part of manufacturing having to put up with the damn customer. and not buying the marbles probably is the cure are you suggesting for anyone else who may be reading and wants round marbles or just me. David I got some skin in the game I collect marbles and I collect these marbles makes it MY damn bussiness so dont presume to tell me mine..in the same breath you decry it quote:"Whats next? Government-mandated regulations on Jabo runs?" what say we jus start with wall street then maybe off shore drilling work our way towards marbles

No real answers. I cant figure it. and obviously cant pose the thought well enough to be understood. So at this time condensed The marbles are as a whole Horribly overpriced. Nothing other than Mint should be allowed to leave the factory considering the prices garnered and Quality touted. That is not the case its buyer beware as to condition, quality and quanity to be produced. If that adds up to more than a .50 to $10 marble under any circumstance I dont know nutt'n bout marbles So sayeth marbleus1

Half of the board wont talk to the other half jus spew. not jus this one. Of the Run "partners" 1/3 dont like 2/3 The tales that are going around(whoevers reading this, not urs, everybodys got tales everybody) its like Peyton Place long established relationships leading to fights and slander. everyone accused of everything by everybody ya cant list all and there aint a problem David

Not at all I appreciate anyone reconizing that I aint jus beat'n a bush. even if I am it aint for the pure "fun of it. I have been acquiring samples of these marble since the beginning and out of round and other than mint is prevalent. I believe most partners have had inquries into there rejects by "retailers". I dont think for collector grade marbles anything but Mint should be allowed to leave the premises It dont matter who I got them from they are Jabos if my jabos arnt up to snuff who would I blame. Jabo, who else everyones ok with that? it was retoricle believe you me I know the answer to that. David David is this the tretise or the the assailment? quote marbleus1:"I will kindly thank you to not interfer with the questions I have about MY marbles. Maybe sometimes you will have to read it twice to understand me, I'm sorry. but I'm done with the what does it matter to you" and your post is response to me for that whoa let me step it back a notch afor you really get mad

Try this one Should every marble made be available for market? I'm thinking ur first post said you didnt see the need for..........blah..blah qoute:"Maybe I don't get it but I don't see where the matter of Quality Control has anything differently to do with these Jabo runs than any past runs in marble History. Would you care to elucidate on this 'cause I'm all ears and I will admit it if I flat out missed a clear and lucid explanation already. David" now "elucidate"ing more than the opening post would be difficult but damnitman I tried in post #11 of course this was preceded by a nother regular to the field quote:"Didn't we already do this thread? A buncha times?"

Sure wish I could recall who was lecturing on the amount of marbles produced and how small an impact that would make! Arguing that compared to Vintage companies the numbers were miniscule. The same Vintage companies(whos marble were shot in slingshots)not saved and a small percentage survived and didnt send out rejects. But these small "number" runs are everyone destined for market no matter the quality Thats not interesting at all? Beside telling me to get sucked You really didnt find one question in ALL of them to answer! Thats not surprising in the least its the way every Jabo discussion goes and then the same peckerhead crys foul! Hell Please try one more time to find any "valid" question I posed to answer for a kindred spirit David

Nice for sure thanks, David

and that was for "cheap" toy marbles in the past unsuitable was thrown in the trash. we know cause we dug um up. do you think all marbles manufactured, especially for collectors are suitable to sell? Are you saying marbles were never culled at Jabo? Are you saying out of round should be sold, dimpled sold? Are you saying Jabo removed such marbles before deliverying them to owners Are you saying that the 20% or 30% or 60% of not MINT marbles are of no consequence? Are you saying that if a ruputable seller culls his marbles for quality then sells the cull it has no consequence? Are you saying the #'s of marbles to actually hit market has no consequence? Nope ya said none of that you said Jabos is special, I know already!!!!!! I've been short on explanations so far thats why ya missed it! So quality of marbles is a none issue - also ? Let me help ya see why it differs In the past they were Jabos In the past they were dollars maybe a pound Now they are not Jabos they belong to individual owners who value them at a considerable higher rate. Where is that value? What the real Mint ones may be worth is a question What about half of them that make market are worth I already Know, marble has to start round! David I'll repeat one time only I like the new marbles. I will kindly thank you to not interfer with the questions I have about MY marbles. Maybe sometimes you will have to read it twice to understand me, I'm sorry. but I'm done with the what does it matter to you - their my marbles and I'm a marble collector and I aint happy with the ways this new venture was delivered to ME the collector. I dont think new collectors should be forking over $40 a pop and if I can shed some light on it I shall. If the thread show me that my questions have no consequence then I shall feel relief. OKAY I think these new marbles have been detramental to the cohesivness of the community and that shouldnt be the case. I jus cant really figure out why? too pretty? too costly? too jeolous? is the message Mr. Collector if you cant figure Value or its too high dont collect. Am I the only one that this seems odd to? its real bothersome its been real bothersome since it begun and truthfully dont know why? I got no problem with the cost to collect of any other marble altough as a group we have been known to warn and I have the same feeling here! Am I only going to be able to buy MInt from a few sellers in hand wont be able to tell by picture so getting a deals out damnitman RETAIL Market Value on a new machined marble not Shamrocks a toy not a toy a colloctable not a collectable no control I know the marbles make a lot of peoples heads hurt aint ya noticed Well Jabo made the big Time down the road I hope really We are still as proud I've spent good money. I believe! yet my questions piss ya off and it aint the money, anyone "investing" in marbles is a lunatic yet I have a huge investment in the collection I give away as many marbles as anyone

Ann? the disposal of Cull was actually already discussed? I did miss that, but was gone a while! What was ur take on the overall quality of marbles being sold to collectors? thank you in advance, david

Quote:"Didn't we already do this thread? A buncha times" if I did I forgot it so I'm doing it again and marble makers and cohorts I will be as understanding as you are if you care not to participate that is fine but its my thread and unless closed or bounced I can handle my bussiness. david lol at greatmacscott marboman if the markup was 1000% the marble would be less than a dollar!

Quote:"but in the end something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it." true the reason also for my confusion. Past marbles we may not know how many but we know no more. So market Value makes corrections as they come to market. This seems more in line with the finacial collapse (alright, alright give me a sec.) The stock market changed from value driven to perception driven. It was worth what the players(working off values touted by insiders) percieved. Similar here The values percieved by the collectors, many insiders(to the rest of the marble world were all insiders). and regardless of what folks will say about the crazy assed online marble community what goes on here most definatly can and does effect prices. And when people in good standing state thats a fine marble and will bring $50 it most certainly does affect value. Is it a $50 marble cause soneone will pay it? well of course yes but as a "trained" collector is it? Had the company (or sellers) came out with a reasonale pricing plan for a basically no value at the time marble and then collector interest had drove the pricing I would probably not fill the same. If quality or quanity control was in place I could have some expectations of sustainability. But its a Capitalist Venture so as a collector the obligation is on me/us to determine value and as collectors if percieved value exceeds actual value didnt we do it. The entrapanuer owes nothing to the hobby but as collectors if we avoid the discuusion or sit aside, because it dont concern us or friends are involved. I jus know I still aint comfortable with developments and havent been able to wrap my hands around what it really means. David