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How much do you think the hype and controversy adds if anything? and how do you discuss them without driving same hype? and is Market Value on a hyped collector item detramental or of no consequence to the long term viability of something as questionable as marble collecting. David

Alrighty Two years back on another board I tried to ascertain The "value" of these marbles and had concerns over this New Marketing concept (new to marbles) Well in what has become the norm for Jabo discussion I was informed in contentiuos fashion that Market determines Value, hell I knew that and questioned as to the real and hidden agenda for my questions. Market Value, right, but there are many quanifiers and they were absent and after much ado, pretty much remain so. So here I go again The differance I see from the past, is marbles for toys compared to marbles for collectors. Well first would be quality control - for toys quality control was in place, unsuited marbles were culled by the company to whatever standards were in place but they were in place. New Run - NO Company(uniform) Quality control. None I said and will glady explain. The company doesnt own the marbles or the glass. Its as if they have no concerns for the disbursment of this product that bears their name. Within this area and I have talked to Many of the Sellers personally, information varies from source to source. Some say at defensive times the cull is high Mint Value Collector grade mibs 20% - 80% to cull, Other sellers 70% to 80% collector grade marbles. Of course differant runs differant results, doesnt change the point! The expansion of the "asmade Mint" catagorie. heres what happening, grading is subjective at best - and the owners grade and decide whats for sale but no cull, some sellers Mint means mint, they are few. Others asmade mint, others Nm+ on and on. Heres what aint happening no destroyed marbles some sellers selling everything under differant grades some sellers selling only Mint. Whats happening with the cull - Giveaways sure, boxed and left to sit sure(of course at some point this will enter the market weather you or descendants, much if not most cull is bought by other sellers who do not have concerns over what happens to it - its for sale. That means for the most part that every marble made will enter the market. I have them out of round, I have them (sweet Flames) with basically golf ball indents (probably from the extended stretching to produce flames and increased cooling time before rollers) and it aint a few its lots, I have others from sellers as crisp as any makers marble (quality control) it is entirely absent. So as the marbles roll thru the auctions there is no way to tell which is which - will that mean the asmade dented marble is worth the same as my mint Flame? or more likely my mint Flame worth the same as the dented one. I know if your a maker that aint ur concern. I'm a lill confused at this lack of controll on a "collector" grade item, you would think the controll higher than marbles for pennies toys. So market Value and an undefineable large # of marbles. Man it sure looks like its a good thing we collectors know our values or overhype could lead to some large losses. Why should we care, whats wrong with a less than a penny marble selling for $45? I aint answering that one its for you! Ya gonna take this the wrong way but its truth I was so glad I was watching the Dirty Job marble episode by myself, when Mr. McCullogh stood on National TV and stated this marble is worth $300, a marble that still had smoke rising from it(not really, but close) cost at most pennies and could be made at anytime. I would not have been able to explain the factors that drove it and believe It would have cast even more doubt over the basic sanity of a "marble collector" expessly me. when 2+2 aint 4 the equation is out of balance. I know love of the hobby, I know vested interest but before as a entrapenuer you explain the risk and cost of ur ventures let me Tell You as a collector I got about 10 lbs of these marbles they fit in a shoe box - collectors boxes included (not the weight) about 35% are actually mint and I got around $1200 in the game. After you figure a resonably tidy profit on the recapturing of your investment. Thats about in line with what you would think, right, $120 a pound or so. If not, welcome to the what the hell might be the value of these marbles thread. David The cull is high and half of these marbles are not suited for collector sales. Withou quanity and quality control there cant be real value in a collectable it aint 4

"So, for any of you who have not caught the underlying gist of this claptrap it is this: Galen is basically saying that both Dave McCullough and Beri Fox are lying dissemblers of the truth while he, Galen, is in sole possession of the truth. And that ain't mincing words! David Chamberlain" Not the underlying gist ...... That I caught David while we on comprehension skills aint ur strong suit yep ya have to read my shit twice to get it wrong its intentional, and yes sometimes I even lose myself but I prefer you thinking what does he mean, than "knowing" I really dont think I'm ambiguous, maybe the smartasstist member but I know it, counts for something oh yea, I think it actually started "in this thread" when you and Galen continued ur piss'n contest which led to the single small comment, that almost everyone would have passed right over untill it was so kindly pointed out the offense which must be taken. sorry I didnt take it.

No David I believe you are mistaken That is not what I garnered from information contain - herein. Best I can figure some really dont like some others. If anything of substance besides a spectacular comparing of 2 old 2 new marbles happened it was so covered in contempt I missed it. David

Galen, I think they gang up on ya. I think if you did less of this "And then it usually isn't a problem untill they find out they are Jabos. That is the point that it becomes disgusting to some folks." "really" I not suggesting how ya type, but all things considered or hell anything considered Thats really the best way to convey ur fealings. "really" cause ya might not have really been interesested in Winnies marble picture. really David when ya laid it down, ya figured the cost, wasnt ur thread, yep ya got that right dont make it so though. alright I'm changing back this speedo has chapped my ass

the man of the hour ole "Innocence" his sef. you really didnt poke at em with a stick? cause I thought I saw ya poke at em with a stick! but heh, dont want to read sump'n in that aint thar, already did that once tonight and it lef me a little aggravated at myself. luckily someone had my back its nice when ya can count on the folks ya sociate with to hep ya with ur mistakes ya know ya make um right yea him, but no you! anyway Im lost was it Swirls ah whatever yall lead I'm going jus hang and poke fun at ya. David its gonna be a real let down if we dont waller after I changed and all whered that Dr Chamberlain fella get to..think he said weiz solmates or sumpn

What did you think of the comparison photos that Winnie posted Steve. Winnie if you dont know Mr. Sturtz (hope thats right) is a published author of marble knowledge and indentification Guides and a respected member of the marble community. unfortunately not so much an online guy and only comes by when Galen asks for his weekly beating. I understand under differant circumstances the main players in this drama hold in their grasp "most" of the marble knowledge folks come here seeking. I've been told! hmm, go figure. David heh but damn fine read'n for the lill chilren Ok no swirls taped it no less Galen!! liar liar pants on fire Now yall dont mind if I get into my wallering clothes, do you?

Hi Bruce, try a return and the feedback thing. but $71.00 aint a killer. The bum got me for much more in his beginnings. hes a theif theres many kinds and he is one.. Welcome to the board a high end contemporary/vintage brought me here some 6 or 7 yrs back and what lill I know bout marbles was defined here. David

Right You are Ann JR HOOPER very nice marbles catseye. David dont seem much of a choking hazard, less ya swallowed the jar

The ones cateye posted aint Bo's? David

gotta be take that dime away same picture on ebay I'm looking David

no he didn ya'll done beat ursefs into another thread!

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SWIRLS side by side if ya please. David ya'll startun to tinkle me off

3. Native American Marble Company. .....Southern Cherokee Division some of theese marbles were passed down thru generations and became the basis for the afor mentioned Atlanta Civil War Marble Company

Every post since #21 is in violation of the parameters set forth in the opening manifesto. And, we should stop it. David lol itneeded dust'n

I think the pistachio's are mostly Alley. I think CAC is responsible for a smaller number. David

and came with "instructions" and restrictions. It was not structured to be a discussion but a class. David nuttn wrong with learn'n but aint real fond of the "teaching"

well Let me jus list our marble accomplishments. 1. ahhh ah ha 1. Atlanta Civil War Marble Company ...currently under management by Atanta Waste Water Treatment 2.Georgia Marble company ....one of the largest and oldest marble festivals in the country right here in Pickens County 3. I'll get back to ya. David Brian! lill help?

ahh. gotta name though, crown royal David again was that 4 every hr?

That may be the mintist 12 count box in existance. The other box - Wow! good luck filling it lol. David and the examples, that sandy and kato

my is right very nice set of christensens If you decide to sell it, have it appraised first! Ive not seen a jobber box of christensens, there will be some CAC experts through a lill later. Hold tight and ya should get comments a plenty. David

Caint be no clearer I concur. David

Still waiting on these Listing says 70's Bohemia (Czech) David

hour or 1 every 4 anyway anyway I accept I have a lill something prepar heh that is bigger ya'll look at this