Steph

Upload them to the gallery. Then they'll automatically be made smaller. (I use Windows Paint to resize, but if you upload to the gallery you can skip that step.)

Besides the white glass now appearing to drift in the wrong direction, it sure looks like polishing compound in the pits in the glass. At least that is how it is coming across over the monitor.

Polished.

American Machine-Made Marbles says they made opaque swirls, but attributes that information to Dennis Webb (and says no individual Bogard swirls had been identified as such). It seems a little out of line with what is said in the main text of the Bogard chapter. So where did Webb get the information? Was it from seeing what was in bags, or was it from talking to someone who worked at Bogard. And heck, isn't Jack Bogard still alive? He certainly was when AMMM was written. Yeah, do that!

Nifty bag.

Did you mean to post a photo? Did it not load?

Soooooo ... now that we've knocked about the definition of WV swirl, what does anyone know about larger sizes? A Ravenswood article claimed they made large marbles, but does anyone have any? Recently we appear to have established that Champion made some shooter-size marbles. Does anyone have any they might share?

Can you paraphrase? Did Al include any modern swirls in his explanation for what a WV swirl was?

Could they have been leftover Heatons? (Of course I would call them WV swirls.) Edit: When the Bogards purchased Heaton the purchase did include some old stock. Some of the old stock was already in bags and the Bogard label was stapled over the Heaton label. But I gather some of the old stock was not already backed with the Heaton label.

I wasn't aware that Bogard made any swirls. I was only aware of their cat's eyes, chinese checker marbles and industrial marbles.

What did they say?

Uh oh. I defer my answer until after I find out if most people include Mid-Atlantics as WV swirls.

I don't know whether others consider modern Champions to be WV swirls. I just can't imagine not including them, so I do. I'm not sure what others do about modern Champs. And I don't now if others include Mid-Atlantic swirls in with WV swirls. Beyond that, I only knowingly include marbles actually made in WV. Amsterdam swirls are made in Amsterdam, so they're not WV swirls. Vacors are made in Mexico, so they're not WV swirls.

The cut-off line for "modern" is usually 1970.

I wouldn't even in a joking way consider including Vacors as WV swirls. Sometimes if I want to get philosophical I might muse about the WV influence on Alox or on European swirls or even on Jabos. But when I say WV Swirls, I mean swirls made in West Virginia. Alox only gets included in that sometimes because I can't tell the difference between the Alox swirls and the WV swirls. I count Champions as WV swirls no matter whether it's vintage Champion or modern.

My most recent marble mail.

Somehow that single marble I posted last ended up looking like it had a champagne base. It's crystal clear. I need to fix that. I GOTTA get busy photographing my D.A.S.'s. Very far behind. For an idea of how far behind ... (that's three high in back)

The style name for the Vacors is "Fiesta". Vacor Fiestas are a discontinued style.

I know not what you mean. There is only burp in my world.

The top one looks like an agate. Actual stone. And it looks like it has moons, so I bet it's an old one. Could have been some boy's shooter 100 years ago. The bottom four marbles look new. I think they're Vacors, from the last 15 years.

I don't think it is a corkscrew. Akro made the corkscrews and I don't think that is Akro. Could be a neat Vacor with an unusual structure.

Not quite following. You had two and gave them away?

Mine from this latest run are still plus-sized ... in the neighborhood of 11/16".

Good question, Sir Cray. Hopefully it won't get too crazy for anyone who sticks around. I'll close the thread if it looks like it's going to go up in flames.