Steph

oh yeah!

http://marbleconnection.com/topic/6786-mostly-pix-peltier/?p=172063

Yeah, I think we can rule out the white and black. http://marbleconnection.com/topic/11385-so-whats-the-scoop-on-peltier-rootbeer-floats/?hl=novas#entry96178

I can imagine a tiny hint of a glow in the ones in the ad. Some luster. Some grain. Maybe. But I think a lot of Aces were opaque, in spite of intentions. I hope I don't sound too much like a broken record when I say that's related to why I think/believe/suspect the Aces didn't last very long. I don't actually have confirmation that they didn't last long, but there don't seem to be all that many of them, even considering how many are likely stuck in with folks' Prize Names. I suspect they were trying to copy Peltier's Realers. But whatever their inspiration was, I don't think they were very successful in the quality control on these. There are some completely opaque ones which I think were likely from Ace runs. I think they had a hard time getting the opalescence right and gave it up earlier rather than later. But I can't prove any of that.

Yup, that sure looks like an Ace, and sure looks yellow. Nice to see.

Thanks, Winnie. Thanks, Bo. A Buttermilk is one kind of Tri-Lite. A Superior is a different kind of Tri-Lite. (link) Keep 'em coming!

I like to keep both of those ad scans around. Since I don't have the original I don't know which is closest. But both have color info I like to refer to. The clip Galen shows has the green in the Lifesaver. It's hard to see in the other scan.

Yeah, they do seem to be a challenge to photograph. Black is the most common one people recognize. Congratulations on the blue. I'm not sure about yellow. That scan might not have true color. Check out the Ace color in this scan: http://marbleconnection.com/topic/17380-akro-aces-early-1930s/ But they at least had "yellowish" ones.

Some nice moss agates there! The blue and white might not get the appreciation which blue and eggyolk gets. I sure do like it though.

I wanted one of Jess's marbles to be a big Superior. But I don't even know if Superiors came in large size. Did they? Anyone want to share some big Vitros? That could be fun.

I'm making my peace with that.

See, that's the thing. We could sort through all the ads and find the most logical explanations for all the information and get the Akro Ace and Moss Agate names completely straight ... but it wouldn't matter. Too many collectors are attached to the names like Lemonade, Cherry-Ade, Ace (for some of the less colorful Moss Agates),etc. People don't care that the actual Aces were a different kind of marble which very often look like Prize Names. The collector naming traditions are so well-established for Akro that I don't think people care that much about what Akro actually called the marbles. Akro Specials is another case. I can call them Tri-Color Agates all day long, but people like to call three-color corks Specials. We're not going to change habits by pointing out evidence that Akro used Special as a catch-all term.

Yes, there are a lot of Ades in that box. Ades is a collector name. Akro's name for Ades was Moss Agates. And there were a lot of other marbles that collectors have different names for which Akro sold as Moss Agates. The Moss Agate was the top of their line. The name Moss Agate is sort of boring to collectors now, but Akro sold a lot of interesting marbles under that name. Good chance the marbles which some call Ringers were also Moss Agates. (One color + wispy white + some clear glass + maybe some cloudy glass if you look far enough in.)

A Hot House marble. Probably posted before but hey, it's a looker.

Here's a link http://www.ebay.com/sch/10000marbles/m.html

Got Brian Bowden's current list so that will give me many more names. They're sorted alphabetically by first name though, so it may take me a bit to collate.

Here's a thread on Aces: http://marbleconnection.com/topic/17380-akro-aces-early-1930s Here's a Moss Agate thread which I only meant to be for the patch-style marbles, but I added a new post with some swirl/cork info at post #9: http://marbleconnection.com/topic/7863-moss-agate-type-marbles/

Okay, if anyone would like to add examples of the swirly/corky Moss Agates, they're welcome here now. As noted, I had intended to keep this thread about patches, but I need a thread to link to for the swirly/corky Moss Agate discussions. I'd have to put a little bit of effort into gathering the advertising evidence for the existence of swirly Moss Agates. It's out there though. For example in one ad, Moss Agates are described as having "exquisite patterns". Patches wouldn't be described as having "exquisite patterns". It's a little confusing since the description is next to a photo of a patch. But Akro ads did a lot of cutting and pasting. Old descriptions with new pics. Old pics with new descriptions. I've gathered a lot of it together before, but I can't remember where I put it. When I find it, I'll add it to this thread. In the meantime, here is a sample box of Moss Agates with salesman's price label affixed:

I have a couple of links. I need to do an update on one. I'll post 'em here soon.

Gonna go with Chinese handmade.

Could be a Chinese handmade. At least that's my only guess for now.

Thanks! Added.