Chad G.

I agree Ron, that's why I started this thread in the first place so I could put aside any assumption's or things I've heard. Until some other as yet unknown provenance is found. I've never seen a "handmade" hollow steelie or seen any provenance on one. Solid ball bearings were sold as marbles "yes" but bought by marble companies from a ball bearing manufacturer, then packaged and sold as marbles. So glad I opened this Wait !! maybe those aren't worms ?? Never seen purple ones with mouths ?? We may be in trouble this time, they look carnivorous !!

Looks like a banded solid core ?? I can't see any separation in the center from these pics anyway ! If you look real close & see any separation between the blue core and white strands then a tri level banded solid core. All I can make out from this pic Joep

Already got this one, divided ribbon core

Divided ribbon core

Wouldn't surprise a bit Ric, always something new popping up. If they did, sooner or later the provenance will show up.

Modern version looks kinda evil, or should say evel !! Beep Beep !!

"Thank you"

Seen them a lot, I worked in a nuclear engine room in the Navy. I was on the USS Enterprise a nuclear powered Carrier, and worked in the engine room with a rating of Machinist Mate. 4 engine rooms with 2 reactors in each engine room. Agreed a great sign for your mib display. Marble looks more like MK instead of a Rainbo ??

Me too, Ric, I tried a search but nothing turned up. I think in some of the older pinball type Wolverine games had them ??

Hmm, maybe the expanding gas (air) bubble caused the fracturing in the first place, making it appear as just being an air bubble. The log straight line is a fracture, as well as the small horizontal crack on the interior on one of the veins. So I see both a fracture & an air bubble.

Ball bearings Brother, keep them well clear of your mibs, they'll scratch them almost on contact. the only solid steelies that are worth any money have to be in the original packaging. Unless they're hollow then it's a gimme. The x looking pattern in the first pic is where they closed up the marble. Sizes all the way from pee - wee to around an inch. Steph's post & a pic from right here on MC, if you want to see more just enter "steelie" in the search bar LINK : https://marbleconnection.com/topic/7389-steelies/?tab=comments#comment-65670 Post of an Ebay sale from yesterday LINK : https://www.ebay.com/itm/393302607687?nma=true&si=

Ball bearings Brother, keep them well clear of your mibs, they'll scratch them almost on contact. the only solid steelies that are worth any money have to be in the original packaging. Unless they're hollow then it's a gimme. The x looking pattern in the first pic is where they closed up the marble. Sizes all the way from pee - wee to around an inch. Steph's post & a pic from right here on MC, if you want to see more just enter "steelie" in the search bar LINK : https://marbleconnection.com/topic/7389-steelies/?tab=comments#comment-65670

Orange peel not necessarily Vacor. I have many marbles from almost every manufacture with an orange peel texture. An orange peel texture is desired on an Akro Jolly Roger. Jolly Rogers "have to be over an inch to qualify" but the orange peel surface isn't a must just desired because it looks exactly like an orange peel, I believe this marble is where the term originated but I'm not sure ?? Be ready to pay up for one of these, just not that many around. Pics of Bill MCcaleb's (mibcapper) Akro Jolly Roger, so named after Roger Hardy, this one I believe is between 1&1/8th & 1&1/14 " Same mib with a small piece of cullet Another one from the old "mibbage.com" sales site, belonged to Charles Williams I believe

X 2, I agree with Vitro as well, cool lookin pattern !!

x 2, contemp, a little hammered on, ya got a size Joep ?? China makes some similar machine-made, torch work Contemps are pretty common, I suspect that's what you have but I'm not sure ??

Hear !! Hear !!

Yeah, it looks like a bit of hvy pocket ware & some pitting, still a different looking one. I'd keep it, of course if your like me it's hard for me to toss any Pelt that isn't beat beyond recognition. i.e. "Pelt head"

I was just gonna say, get it wet & loupe the black ribbons real quick in a bright light & see what pops up !!

Does it have aventurine ?? To be considered a Golden Rebel it must have Av. Still even if it has aventurine an odd one for sure. My best Golden rebel has av. in the black, red & yellow, with some green av. in the yellow

Gold is a bit off !! Av. = golden rebel "no av." not a golden rebel. Aventurine in at least the black ribbons is a qualifier for Golden Rebels. No av. Rainbo for me !!

Correct, black ribbons on a white opaque base

No real way to tell once the "solid" ones are out of their original packaging, have to be considered ball bearings Brother, keep them well clear of your mibs, they'll scratch them almost on contact. If I were you I'd just toss em or give em to the grandkids for sling shot ammo (value "0") The only "solid steelies" that are worth any money have to be in the original packaging. Unless they're hollow then it's a gimme. The x looking pattern in the first pic is where they closed up the marble. Sizes all the way from pee - wee to around an inch. One of Steph's threads from right here on MC, if you want to see mare just enter "steelies" in the search bar LINK : https://marbleconnection.com/topic/7389-steelies/?tab=comments#comment-65670 Another pic from Steph's thread of some solid steelies in original packaging.

Boletus - Tomato, Tamato

Ads from 1927 Butler Bros. toy magazine with appreciation & permission from Jim Sneed, shoenhut collectors club, oldworldtoys.com, ads for both solid and hollow steelies. Sorry for the blur in the first ad. 1927 - American Steelie - Hollow steel & solid steel : Parisian Turquoise & American Carnelians 1924- onyx American marbles High Grade Cobalt Blue Onyx : Solid Steel

Fantastic Ric, thanks a bunch Appreciate it !!