Alan

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Oven brick.

Thats just tap dancing around the issue. Not unlike the well-worn "I don't know anything about marbles" to explain inaccurate listings. They are just excuses.

An out-of-round marble needs to be clearly identified as such, regardless of surface condition. Ditto for sub-surface fractures. Anything less is not ethical and attempts to take advantage of the buyer to the seller's benefit.

Not even in the ballpark. I'm not sure that it is glass.

WV. I'm not getting Ravenswood.

It should bother you (as it does). EOD has become another fanciful concept that attempts to dramatize the cane construction process in a completely untraceable, un-provable way with no provenance. If one spends time as part of the cane construction process (or watches it closely over time), there are many things that can and do happen that are variables affecting the final outcome. Then multiply that by variables in shop, artist, assistant, error, weather, pot/glory hole/glass temps, time constraints, how bored or tired the artists was etc etc etc. Cane construction and marble cut-off weren't rocket science and the tools of the day were (and are) quite simple. Expect variances. Lots of them. Much like the much-ballyhooed "Left twist" as a 'rare' thing. Its not as if there was a law that prevented right-handed people from twisting left.... or left-handed glass artists. If one understands cane construction - why would an artist go through all the trouble to make a cane to make just one marble at the end of the day? They could make ten times the marbles with ~10% more effort. (select and then size and lay down the canes on a hot marver & measure with calipers, first gather, cold marver, 2nd gather, cold marver, 3rd gather, cold marver to start the cylinder, gather, begin torch-heating the canes (Joseph) or frit (onion), cup shape, measure, gather, marver to cylinder, caliper the gather, do the cane or Onion background pick up, heat carefully, marver, gather. If an Onion, then heat layer #2 of the frit, do a pick-up, marver. Then do a clear gather, marver. If only one stage piece (simpler), then start the end neck-down process, cut off excess to water bucket and then round the cut-off point with the cherry wood cup. Then begin necking down the single piece slowly, returning to the glory hole a few times to keep piece evenly heated, then complete necking down. Cut off the piece to the cup or wet paper, finish the cut-off point with heat and cup, or store overnight to the annealing oven and wait until tomorrow and cold grind it. Personally, I don't see hard working vintage glass workers in a sweltering glass shop with little ventilation going through that to make a single piece to amuse themselves. It good to remember the era these were made in.

Joseph's Coat for me. The cane layout/marver pick-up is classic Joseph's Coat. Any band stretching is incidental to the required necking-down process. IMHO

I can't add much to the prior discussion. The raked black/green (T/R) is fairly consistent with Ferguson, but there are always artists that copy good designs, so.................. (Unfortunately, I have chosen to remove this content due to unchecked behaviors by others on this board. I will not insult or attack members, and I'll accept nothing less from them (or moderators). My apologies to those who will not benefit from it in the future.)

They are of more value to you to learn from than what they will sell for.

Its not a furnace swirl. Beware that seller.

That one is a machine made as well.

I think you'll find that it doesn't have a pontil. Its a machine made.

Looks red from those pics - but they are out of focus. Back your lens away until the marble comes in focus. Focus is more important than pic size.

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5 think that it is a machine made mistake. Thats not a pontil.

I've never heard of a "caged latticino". That marble looks like a normal latticino.