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There are a large ammount of extra bright and beautiful types that only appeared recently Winnie.(there are some pictured in that book) They are called Exotics by many collectors. Most CAC collectors know when they are holding one of the "Exotics". It would be impossible to describe in writing the difference in the "Exotics" and a regular extra special CAC striped transparent or striped opaque. One story is they were found in one big hole in the ground during a Cambridge city pipe laying project. Another is that the all came from the home of an employee of CAC. Almost all of them can be traced back to one of a very small group of people.(one of the reasons they are questioned). This is a subject that will probably always remain controversial and unproved one way or the other. One reason is that too much money exchanged hands for these marbles when they first appeared.(hundreds of thousands of dollars?) And nice examples are still selling in the 500-1000 dollar range.

Alan has sold many in the last 12 months. I have examined a couple under 45X magnification and found the exact same surface as on CAC 2 seam slags that I have.(definitely machine made) I still have a problem feeling 100% OK with them. Having been in the antique business for years it is one of the number one rules that if it is too good to be real it probably isn't and I had a very knowledgeable person once tell me, If it wasn't then-it probably isn't now. Meaning, something that is only known in recent times probably isn't old. I own 2 they are beautiful marbles but I am not spending big money on them. Until some one shows me some in original packaging or some very clear pictures of some taken before 1990.

Billy J. Williamson May 19th 1932 10:04 A.M. recess at George Washington grade school Columbus, Ohio

What do you consider "Exotics" Bob. I ask because many marbles you have listed for sale as Exotics are not what most CAC collectors would consider "Exotics"

There are cancelled paychecks from Peltier to Arnold dated 1927 so there shouldn't be any disagreement. And there is no proof that I know of or even heard of that Arnold ever worked for Cambridge Glass. Lots of assumption and speculation, that's for sure.

Spectacular!!!!!!

WOW! I must not go to the same shows Dinky does. I leave my mibs out and often leave my table. I also went to many shows as a newbie with stuff to sell and show off. Never felt pressured one little bit. maybe the west coast is more easy going or I am just lucky!!

They have been going for 50 a piece at recent shows

there are now some very good epoxies for filling glass http://stores.restorersupplies.com/-strse-Adhesives-cln-Hxtal-NYL-dsh-1-%26-Araldite-2020/Categories.bok?gclid=CLbps5LEsaoCFWsbQgodplEh-Q

If we get the other 3 folks that I know want them maybe we can have a battle royal at the marble ring. Can you play on packed snow??

They still use those boxes in some lodges. Most of the collected types are pre 1950. The marbles get replaced over the years. I have found white and black, handmades, clays, chinas, benningtons, stoneware, and machinemades in the boxes. There are some amazing boxes in collections and museums.

what a shame the water was so cloudy(lol)

They did use stones in early sailing ships, absolutely!

I believe finding marbles at some shipwreck sites lead to the story about marbles as ballast. There are a few things that do not add up. First is, it would have taken multiple millions to make up the weight needed as most marbles shipped would have been clay. And the area used would have been way too great. The weight to volume ratio would have also been very poor for ballast. I guess if they were stored low in the holds they might have been considered ballast(along with all other items in that part of the holds. Also most ships used to transport marbles were not using free ballast.

How are beanie babies doing?

After studying dozens of Guineas and hundreds of striped opaques I can say that they were made the same. Two seam guineas exhibit the same S shape or looping on one side between the seams just like the other seamed CACs. The single seams can also exhibit the exact same characteristics of the other single seam types. How they were done is a mystery but I doubt very much any type of cane was made. (Too time consuming for one thing)And this was after handgathering and during gob Here is a couple that show the wild action on a side between 2 seams. I should add I am talking about general construction. How when and where in the process the spots were laid on is another mystery

We are thinking alike. Anyone else want to jump in.

I would not put much value in Blocks descriptions. He made many of them up and has not updated them over the years.

Good question. But I keep hearing that onionskins are color banding and or splotches on a white(usually) layer is why I ask. These have only the layer of color banding which would classify them as Josephs Coats. I would have a problem calling them by that moniker .

I always considered the ground pontil marbles in this group pic onionskins. Are they????

You better have that box of CACs set aside Marbles and crab now thats a combo to die for!

thanks for the pics Art. very interesting for sure.

Most of the inserts are plain cardboard covered in yellow paper. Never seen an insert with the metal corners. Sounds very interesting!

I think just the fact there are many many boxes of them in family rooms living rooms bedrooms basements and garages across the country would keep me from betting on their value increasing. Although good marketing can have some surprising results.