Sorry BJ, I could have gone about this in a much more civilized manner. We have been discussing these and studying them for years. Absolutely no way they are CAC IMO . Besides the glass being all wrong there is often odd cut off marks that one never finds on CACs, Also the thick 9 and odd patterning often found at the cut off is different than what one usually sees with CAC, There are also transparent based ones and many with white base glass IMO. The glass colors are sort of Muted and tend to blend together BJs really shows this, something you really don,t see with CACs. They are very easy to identify in hand. I turned one around that has the little crease pontil(cut off)
Steff, was it Roger that has the big collection of these? He also posted great pics at one time. Found it http://members.kingston.net/browse/transpics/