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They come in several base colors including a very pretty yellow.

where did that bottom one come from Ron?

CAC sold marbles to Albright. Someone else may have also, because in the early 30s they sold the cheapest glass marbles available.

When the glass stream is small it has to pile up (fold) into enough volume to make a marble. Here is a really neat pic. These were in a Game that contained Alley swirl(Although single color) and many could be seen that showed that when the stream piled up in a circular motion instead of just haphazardly it formed flames.

And if you read enough articles on black glass you will read that they were even making it pre WWI

Good idea I will take a closer look at the top right marble.

I would agree that most, if not all, made thin enough would look like a color other than black(most commonly a purple) but I believe there were some old recipes that were pretty dog gone "Black" and appear black even when very very thin.. And I don't think I ever mentioned Borosilicate or meant to include it in this conversation? They are making it over at Owens HOME → BUSINESS→ RETAIL Print Story Published: Sunday, 6/8/2014 - Updated: 5 months ago Owens-Illinois says its black glass bottles are becoming its new green Firm boosts production as distilleries thirst for color BY JON CHAVEZ BLADE BUSINESS WRITER Joe Fisher of Joseph’s Beverage Center, shows Miller Fortune’s bottling. MillerCoors says the packaging has prompted consumers to say ‘‍no other beer looks like Miller Fortune.’ THE BLADE/JEREMY WADSWORTHEnlarge | Buy This Photo New York fashion experts agree that when it comes to clothing, blue is the new black. But in the world of glass bottles, it appears that the new black is ... black. Owens-Illinois Inc., which four years ago began experimenting with more cost-effective ways to make a variety of colored glass, has discovered that beer, wine, and distilled spirits-makers have taken a shine to black glass made by the Perrysburg company. As a result, the glass-packaging maker has been beefing up its black-glass production capabilities worldwide to meet increased customer demand. “There continues to be great enthusiasm around the capabilities we have created in our new innovation center. In the first quarter alone, we produced samples of more than 20 newly designed concepts for customers for wine, beer, and nonalcoholic beverages, highlighting the strong collaboration between our global-product innovation team and the research-and-development team,” O-I Chairman and CEO Al Stroucken told Wall Street analysts in late April when the company reported its first-quarter earnings. In mid-April, O-I announced that it plans to spend more than $40 million to upgrade its plant in Alloa, Scotland, specifically to supply customers in the Scottish whisky business. High on the list of products to be produced in Alloa: black glass bottles for a number of distilled spirits customers. Lisa Babington, an O-I spokesman, said black glass isn’t a novelty product. “It represents another choice we offer to our customers, and it’s growing in popularity. We expect it to gain in significance as the trend toward premiumization continues, however it is not a significant part of today's sales figures,” Ms. Babington said. In the first quarter of 2014, O-I produced samples of 19 newly designed black glass concepts for customers producing wine, beer, distilled spirits, and nonalcoholic beverages, said Rildo Lima, who is O-I’s vice president and general manager for global specialties and global innovation as well as the company’s acting chief commercial officer. Mr. Lima said that in 2010, when O-I started looking for better ways to protect the contents inside the bottles it makes, it began investigating a variety of new colors. Black showed a lot of promise for two reasons. Cutty Sark uses O-I’s black glass for its new Prohibition Edition blended scotch. Enlarge “No. 1, there was the aesthetic factor. It projects a premium image,” Mr. Lima said. “No. 2, could it provide better UV protection, that is, the same or better than amber?” Mr. Lima said the answer to second question was yes, but O-I already could produce clear glass with adequate protection from ultra-violet rays. The real question, he said, was whether O-I customers would see a premium value in using black glass. The answer, it turns out, was a resounding yes. “Four years ago it was just two or three products, now we’re at 19 products,” Mr. Lima said. One customer that has embraced black glass is MillerCoors brewing company, which is using O-I’s jet black bottles for its new Miller Fortune premium beer. “Miller Fortune was developed to compete in spirits drinking occasions, and we wanted to design the packaging to be unique, sleek, and different from other beers. Black glass was preferred by consumers and was one of the visual icons to help launch Miller Fortune,” said Ben Feeney, marketing manager for branded innovations at MillerCoors. Mr. Feeney said that with its black glass bottle, response to Miller Fortune “has been exceptional. Consumers have said that no other beer brand looks like Miller Fortune.” Shawn Welch, vice president of sales and marketing for O-I North America, said the positive reaction to Miller Fortune was exactly why O-I began experimenting with new colors for its glass packaging, and why it believes black glass has a huge untapped potential. Lots of potential “MillerCoors wanted innovation around their new product. So what would make this product different?” Mr. Welch said. “Color differentiation is one of those ideas where, if you look at a beer bottle, you see a lot of amber-colored beer bottles, you see some clear bottles, but you don’t see a lot of color differentiation. “So when blue shows up, you notice that, like with Bud Light Platinum,” Mr. Welch said of Anheuser-Busch’s cobalt bottle. “MillersCoors was looking to position this new beer, which has a higher alcohol content, and they wanted to make it look different on the shelf,” Mr. Welch said. “So we started to explore ways to process that and make that appearance stand out. It started with a normal stock bottle and then we said, ‘Why not make it appear black in color?’ “And with that we started to deal with shape differentiation to make it even more distinctive in the consumer’s mind when it is sitting on the shelf and in bars.” Mr. Welch said a big selling point for O-I’s black glass is that it is “authentic,” that is, the glass is inherently black. Other black bottles in use start as clear glass with a black glass treatment or black sheet that covers it. “If you break our glass, it will be black throughout,” Mr. Welch said. How it is done O-I officials declined to say how they make black glass. But in general, glass can be made in various colors by adding various metals or chemical compounds during the glass-making process. Mr. Feeney of MillerCoors said the solid black color assured the brewer that light will not penetrate the bottle and degrade the beer. “Too much light or heat can change the way beer tastes or ‘skunk’ the taste,” Mr. Feeney said. “Miller Fortune’s black bottle not only provides a unique design aesthetic, it keeps light out so the rich taste and smooth finish of the golden lager can come through consistently,” Mr. Feeney said.

Many marbles have for all intents and purposes "BLACK" Yes many are deep blue brown red purple etc, but many are "Black" Here is a group with just about all the types of Black. And notice how the cork Dani shows remains 'Black" even where the color is very thin. That is probably the biggest tell of true "Black" Akro Peltier CAC and others had a true "Black" in their color pallet IMO

A thin single stream of glass from a single furnace is piled up in a Receiving area "cup" "hole in a block" etc and cut off to make a single marble. It is the simplest type. Colors are mixed in the furnace directly above the outflow hole. A thin stream results in many folds "possibly flames if piled up in a circular motion" a thicker stream will result in the single fold types like the early buttcrack Jabos and V type Vitros. Some of the so called Peltier swirls were actually multiple streams from several furnaces each with a single glass color meeting just before being sheared. These are not the same as the Ohio, WV and Alox swirls. I wish I had Master Made shearing area plans as it seams to me they may have dropped directly to the rollers, this being the reason a folded up Master is one of the rarest marbles to find. I have only seen "had" one in over 25 years of collecting. Akro used a "cup" which did result in some being folded up.

I have had and have seen several of the inky black like corkscrews similar to yours. I do not believe any qualified as Popeyes. (wrong colors. No real stringy white and not much clear) (just the clear that often separates colors on Akros.

I also see a swirl not a Pelteerr

You sure thats a Popeye. I can not see the clear?

I would appreciate it. Can always put up more pics as needed.

Its gotten to the point where all I see is Alley or CAC. The lower left is a strange bubble filled translucent swirl I have no idea what it might be. Anyone see anything other than Alley in the others and which drawer should they go in??? Any help greatly appreciated.

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Heck of a nice box of marbles you got there Ron.

I was wondering the same thing.

a fairly common defect most common from the site that was dug the most, Akro Agate.

I think some are CAC and the globules seen under the transparent glass of Ednas marble are actually a fairly common CAC trait. Found on Alley Agates also? I have gone back and forth with these types for many years.

I would lean toward Alley but may be one of each with out having them in hand. Pictures make the call very difficult as it is hard to get an idea of what the glass quality is actually like. Alley Agate marbles tend to have more translucency to the base glass and not quite as clean and pure transparent glass. (not always the case). Also they can have more looping and twisting to the patterns.

Yikes!! We got over 70 today

I will try

They are still very prolific at flea market bead sellers. All sizes and styles.

This is the type thread that makes me wish I was just a little less color blind. I can imagine posting a bunch of marbles and everyone wondering if I was crazy because I posted a bunch of gray or blueish marbles(LOL)

Ron, Is that top one dug? I have its twin and am fighting where to put it.