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Not sure it is any mistake ? I see many foreign cat eyes with this tinted green base and fading colors. Just cheap base glass and cheap colored glass for the veins, less quality.
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Correct modern made in Mexico.
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Zero collector value for 99% of collectors. Great for kids to play with and decoration.
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MK Berry Pink is opaque base or clear base. Some call the clear base, a naked Berry Pink. All near 7/8 inch. Never seen a one inch Berry Pink but maybe possible, MK made several one inchers and larger. I think it is just a one inch MK patch.
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Marble Packaging pic's, bag,s, boxes, etc.
wvrons replied to Chad G.'s topic in General Marble & Glass Chat
The Shur Shooter bag is fantasy. The fantasy bags will have newer usually foreign marbles in them. Al had a list of a 100 or more fake and fantasy bags. Most of the original vintage plastic bags of marbles will have a 1/2 inch wide melted seam top to bottom in the center on the backside of the bag. I have never seen anyone yet fake this melted seam. There are hundreds of fantasy and fake plastic bags on the market especially ebay for several years now. Many came from one man in FL. Value for them is about zero. I have never seen a decent fake mesh bag. There are Alox bags with newer marbles in them. But the mesh bag is original. They were sold by the rolls at the last Alox auction after the company closed. The buyers filled them with newer marbles. There were also original Alox headers sold by the roll at the same autcion. There are fake boxes and restored original box sets of marbles. Plastic bag of marbles, look for the melted seam down the center of the back. Some later original bags may not have it but 98% of the old original plastic bags of marbles will have the seam. You cannot always go by the staples. They can be rusted and new. I have mesh bags from 1945 that have nice bright staples. Original bags and box sets of marbles can be expensive. So you need to have some knowledge of them. Some box sets can sell for $1000.00- $5000.00 - $10,000.00 - $30,000.00 . A good 100 count Sparkler box can sell for $6,000-$8000.00. I know because I sold one. The CAC 100 count box above I had in my hands. I have one of only two Alley salesman sample cases. Original mesh bags can sell for $20.00 to $400.00 each. Original plastic bags can sell for $5.00 to $150.00 each. Akro 200 tins can sell for $250.00- $750.00 each. Bags, boxes, tin, prices can also depend on what marbles are inside it. -
Everybody loves alley ( don't they )
wvrons replied to Chad G.'s topic in General Marble & Glass Chat
The now named monochrome are Alley. They were sold as game marbles. I have went through a few thousand game marbles. You can find lots of swirl pattern in Alley game marbles and some flame patterns. I think they were the early Alley game marbles. They are in different colors, red and blue the most, some green,orange and yellow. But it takes a good light and eye to notice some of them. Game marbles is what put Alley over the top in marble production. At Pennsboro he had trouble making payroll. Employee's worked with no pay for a while. They had faith in him. He put cardboard inside his shoes to cover the holes. Then game marbles for Chinese checkers came on the scene. Alley and Jack Pressman became good friends. Alley had to move to St.Marys for a larger building to triple production fast. In 1937 Alley was producing 750,000 per day with four machines. Most of those were game marbles. In one month he would ship five railroad cars full of marbles, one million marbles. In 1938 Alley produced two million marbles per day, with ten machines. At 165 marbles per minute, then 220 per minute and then faster. Alley paid every dollar of back pay to his employees. So there are several swirled and flame pattern Alley Chinese checker marbles. -
Everybody loves alley ( don't they )
wvrons replied to Chad G.'s topic in General Marble & Glass Chat
I know where there are some Alley red monochromes and some blue monochromes. First time I heard them called that. -
Everybody loves alley ( don't they )
wvrons replied to Chad G.'s topic in General Marble & Glass Chat
7/8 Of course I like Alleys. To many people like them now. I am friends with two of L.E. Alleys grandsons. Alley was involved is some manner with almost every WV marble company. He was good friends with Berry Pink and Jack Pressman. Lots of history around L.E. Alley. -
Marble Packaging pic's, bag,s, boxes, etc.
wvrons replied to Chad G.'s topic in General Marble & Glass Chat
I lost 75% of everything marble wise that I had during a divorce in 2005. Some of those original packages that I had then, I have never been able to replace or find. Original packages especially rare mesh bags have disappeared. -
Rainbo's with metallic and or aventurine have become sought after now. Many of the NLR Peltier prices have got above the average collector or beginner collector. Especially the hard to find ones. So many people are now collecting and naming Rainbo's.
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I think Morphy's auction sold the highest single marble price. It was a three inch handmade, I think the largest ever found. It was over $30,000.00 maybe 32 or 34,000.00 ?
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I remember at Decatur when Gino B. saw this and said Peltier. He said that he had seen one inch Cerise listed in the Peltier paper work. But that he had never seen one until this one. He said the first marbles produced by Peltier were slags and not the feathered slags. So many slags still confuse me. As almost or all the very early companies started with making slags. So many of the color combinations and cut lines are so similar. I know Bill bought this one many years ago originally as a Akro. Years ago everyone agreed on Akro. But then the last ten years people looked at it closer and compared it with Peltier Cerise. Several know Pelt collectors and experts the agreed Peltier. Things thoughts and information change and we have to be willing to change. More, new and better information comes about every year. Marble collecting is a young hobby compared to many. So much more information available now even compared to ten years ago, let alone 25 yrs. ago.
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I do not see many of the Frank"s Alleys Jabos any more. They were made about 2003, same run as the first or early Jabo Superman. I was at Jabo when both were made. Most people has forgot the name or what they look like. But the serious Jabo collectors know them.
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All four Alleys. With the 5/8 Jabos similar to these. The red most times is wider, it will stay on the surface more, Many times the red will be in a C-U or S shape and on about half the marble. There is a 3/4 inch Jabo named Frank's Alley. Named for Frank Sellers a friend of mine and grandson of L.E. Alley. I have never seen a 3/4 Alley with this yellow base and red or orange. The 5/8 Jabo classics will also usually have small white marks, pecks, little sparkles, hits. They mixed the different colors of the 5/8 Jabo classics with 2 1/2 gallon metal buckets. A 1500-2000Lb. box of red, one of blue, one of green setting side by side along with a empty box. A metal bucket full or marbles from each box, dumped over into the empty box. So they have lots of contact spots. Lots of small or tiny white looking spots on a otherwise mint 5/8 marble beware of Jabo classics. The 3/4 Jabo Frank's Alley looks the nearest to these true 5/8 Alleys. Size matters. If like these and 3/4 it is 99% chance of Jabo. Alleys.