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The links are posted above for many named Vitro marbles info and pictures including the Neon Conqueror. Most of them 99% are 7/8 inch size, maybe a few at 15/16. I know of maybe three smaller 5/8 inch that might be close a Neon. A long time well known dealer two years ago at the Decatur IL show had one for sale. Of course Nola and I always watch for these. He wanted $450.00 for the near mint minus one that he had. Of course we never bought that one. They are not easy to find. I have sold one at $100.00 to a friend and one at $150.00 over four years ago. Ric A. you better remind me to bring your Vitro book Thursday to the Indy show. I forgot it last week. CHECK the links just above, posted by Chad G. for the Vitro Neon picture and most named Vitro marbles. Simple easy to understand descriptions and or requirements with great pictures for named Vitro marbles. The late Chuck Brandstetter, myself and a couple others helped build this Vitro guide about maybe fifteen years ago. It is a good tool to use often. It has many answers for Vitro identification questions. It would answer 80% of the Vitro identifications asked for here every week.

The bag above, I think contains the Candy Stripe Marble King marbles. It is less than ten years old.

Several that Ric has above will fit into the Fancy Conqueror group. The best Vitro guide and best Vitro pictures are on All About marbles In the ID section near the top under Vitro Agate Identification Guide. The guide shows and explains four different types or groups of Vitro Conquerors. Plus many pages of other detailed pictures and info on named Vitro marbles. Conqueror = 25 cents Phantom Conqueror= 50 cents-$1.00 Fancy Conqueror = $1.00-$5.00 Exotic Conqueror = $10.00-$20.00 Neon Conqueror= $150.00- $250.00 Original Vitro double header(top &bottom)Cellophane bag with five Neon Conquerors = $1000.00 -$2000.00

The ones you have circled are not Exotic Conquerors. The purple Heaton has no green. It has no cut lines, it has a dark purple base. You original marble is a Vitro Conqueror. I don't think it will fit the fancy, exotic or phantom conqueror groups. Exotics can have patches of either yellow, green, or red, and always have white ribbons or threads and usually some thin brown ribbons, all on a clear base.

The green is washed out overexposed, and the red does not have enough light. Light must be coming from only the sides or sides and back. The green should be darker more solid looking and the striping should be a nice red and orange/brown. The background still has the blue tint. That is probably from the light bulb you are using. Some put off a blue tint, some put off a yellow tint. There are several different light bulbs. Some can be expensive. But daylight bulbs are about the same price as soft white and normal use bulbs. I have a single led, small handheld flashlight that does well. But it is high lumens about 600-700 lumens. Numbers of led's will put numbers of spots on the marble picture. A single high lumens light works ok. Try the same marble on a nontextured flat black background, on a nontextured med gray background, or a non textured white background. Even a piece of white printer paper. Colored base marbles can photograph well on white background. I tried using a light box years ago for a year and I did not like it. Now I take my marble pictures on top of my clothes dryer. Overhead is a bright led room light. I have 12 inch by 12 inch sheets of different colors of felt for background. But all I use is the off white and flat black. I have used the gray a little. I use my small single led 600 lumens flashlight if more light is needed in a certain area or side, etc. I use a $50.00 camera, a $50.00 hand held small pocket flashlight, and $3.00 worth of background, now for over ten years for my marble pictures. You can see many of them here and over in General Glass Talk.

I wish they did not have the blue tint. I think they are both Alley. I think the left one picked up some junk off of the rolls.

I agree. I think it is a Alley Bacon from St.Marys WV.

Jabo

I had to do some comparison. But I think the clear with yellow orange and white marble, is probably Champion. Ravenswood has a rare one that is very similar. But those are not as bright of colors and seem to be more busy swirling inside. Those don't show as much white as the one above. But still possible, I am going with 55% chance of Champion and 45% Ravenswood.

Ric's picture is what it should look like. But he has been doing this a few years. Even the two pictures above with the yellow, the backgrounds look like two different colors.

Fingers are not good in marble photos. Many camera lens will try to focus on the fingerprint more than the marble. But these above are not that bad.

I agree with the top left as Akro corkscrew. I am not attempting any of the others with these pictures to far away and this background. Need closer in focus pictures for accurate ids. Plus accurate colors, even these two pictures the colors are different. You will find one or two backgrounds that work good. Nothing shiny or slick. Neutral color, sometimes flat black works well on everything except black colored marbles. Sometimes a gray t-shirt works fine. Not to smooth and not to textured. Light neutral color background that does not match the marble colors. Trying different kinds of lighting, different type bulbs, different angles, daylight bulbs, etc. Background and lighting are keys. Next is getting close enough and staying in focus. Then two or four different angels of each marble showing the details. We all have struggled with marble pictures. Most of us have found a set up that works well enough to present the marble best possible, as best we can with what we have. Trying to have it look like it does in hand. When people have to tell us what color we are looking at, that is not good and can affect identifications for sure. There are lots of marbles pictured here everywhere to compare your own with. Some people use phones, some use cameras, some cheap cameras. After three expensive cameras I settled in with a $50.00 point and shoot camera that does fine. I have four of those cameras now, because they are not any longer made. It is has much background and lighting as the camera. It is a combination.

CAC

Any machine made company could have and most likely made double ingots, triple ingots or more odd ingots of marbles stuck together. Akro for sure made triple ingots. At least 99% of double or triple ingots are errors. Any machine operator can make them. I have done it. Just take the metal tongs and while the marbles are rolling down the rolls. Pick up or touch two or three or four marbles together and they stick and mold together. Anyone, hundreds of people who attended any investor run at Jabo saw marbles touched together and removed from the rolls. If the marbles get to large or two small in the roll groove they cause problems and are removed and discarded in a metal catch can. If the marbles are 1/32. 1/16 inch or more to large for the roll groove they can touch together and start a chain reaction backing things up. Many times a operator may touch two, three, four or five marbles together while they travel down the rolls and remove them for many reasons. If the operator is busying doing something else or working on another problem, some double or triple ingots will make it to the catch can at the end of the machine rolls. Those will later after annealing be sorted by shipping people. They put a 1000lb. or 2000lb. bin of marbles up on a tall stand. The bin has a small opening with a gate. This bin will feed a long chute or trough to the boxes or small drums which will hold the sorted marbles for sale. The bin gate is opened and marbles roll downhill through the chute to the person sorting. The person sorting pulls or removes out of round, double or triple ingots, football shaped, etc. any non standard production. But do that for hours, sort marbles with both hands while they are rolling down hill through a six inch wide and four inch deep trough to a box. Of course some are missed and do make it to the public. We all have and seen the odd shapes, double ingots, footballs, hershey kiss, etc errors that were not caught and discarded. I have high hopes that no experienced collector thinks there was some separate magic machine that made double ingot or triple ingot marbles. I have never seen or heard anyplace that only certain companies made double or triple ingot marbles. This is how new collectors get started with wrong information, beliefs, guesses and myths. I will state it again. Every machine made marble company made some double and triple ingot marbles if they produced marbles for even one week.

Yes very balanced. Many times they are not. Yes it would be cool to post marble pictures now. But I had to get a new computer and have no marble pictures on it yet. Maybe someday in the future ? I have seen and probably have double and triple ingot marbles from most all companies. As I have dug marbles at almost all of them except Peltier. As I said most double or triple ingots were errors and discarded by every machine made marble company. I have never seen before anyplace or heard anywhere that Akros have two and Peltier has three ingots. How many numbers double or triples of ingots did Vitro, Champion, Alox, CAC or Jabo have ? Every company made errors and mistake marbles when problems occurred almost daily.

It could be CAC. But not a high dollar one, with some damage and weak colors.

The number of ingots has nothing at all to do with who produced it. I have a Heaton triple ingot. I have posted it here several times. Every double or triple or more ingot is a error. Marbles the wrong size stuck together as they touch together after the shear. Every machine made company had some, every week probably every day. Most were caught sorted out and discarded before being packaged or shipped. But it is impossible to sort out all the errors.

Vacor

Not Alley. Not vintage.

Ravenswood made very very few marbles with yellow. I have seen a 100,000+ Ravenswood marbles and only maybe 200 of them had any yellow. Odds are if it is a vintage swirl with yellow that Ravenswood is down the list of makers. Not impossible but low on the list of vintage swirl makers.

Peltier Rainbo.

Vitro Agate All Reds. Probably the second most common marble made by Vitro from the late 1930's until 1986. Each marble has a white base with a red patch and another patch of a different color on the opposite side. They were named buy the company. All Red means that each time a kid would shoot or roll the marble the red color always flashed. Red was every kids favorite color. There are different shades or types of glass used over the years. Some have a shiny iridescent finish. They can be commonly found from 5/8 inch to 7/8 inch size. About ten cents each. I have had a box of 100 5/8 inch for sale $10.00, at many shows for three years and I still have it.

I agree Champion. Alley also made some white base with blue and wide silver metallic. Some can be very hard to separate from Champions. Champion made the most white base, blue and silver metallic marbles. They produced them on purpose. Champion and Jabo were the only two machine made companies to produce metallics on purpose. Penny King is a Jobber who filled bags with different companies marbles. What ever was cheapest and available at the time.

I see my hand writing above. Those came straight from Dave shortly after the cards were made up. Not easy to let those go. But they found a good home.