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Would this be considered a Peltier Red Angel or Nah? Thanks:) 0.633"
wvrons replied to NeozLilBallz's topic in Marble I.D.'s
I am fine with that. I see the bleed. -
What is a late Pelt slag ? I agree the cullet is backwards of the marble. It was white base with blue added.
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Not every marble can accurately be narrowed down to only one company.
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I am watching you ! LOL
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I had three polishing machines running at the same time. One did up to three inch marbles. The colors can change so that they go dark more to brown. Run a marble dry on a machine long enough and it will heat up and blow apart. The liquid used antifreeze or whatever used, is for cooling. Glass colors can and do burn and change in making machine made marbles. Because they are overheated, just the same as overheating in a polishing machine. If the polishing machine motors RPM's are to fast it can cause overheating. I have used fine polishing grit in the third stage that will not scratch a marble. But the marble can overheat, colors change or the marble blow apart from heat. How are crackled or fried marbles made ? Overheat them and they crack bad. I sold all my machines because it took to much time for each marble. Polishing a $10.00 marble is not worth the time of 30 to 60 minutes doing it. If it was much over a $10.00 marble I did not want to polish it. Unless it was a large handmade that I would keep. I have polished 1 1/4 inch out of round Jabos down to one inch and less. They can get hot and make the colors look burnt. Most red glass when ground proper, if it gets thin, then polished correct , it will look pink. But if it is overheated it will go dark or brunt looking. That is what I have done and seen in person, at least two other people do polishing marbles. Overheat them and the colors can go dark. I can maybe find some superman that was ground in my garage. But they were never finished because the red turned dark, using water instead of antifreeze for cooling. Bill McCaleb did one and so did I. They were beat up bad to begin with. But they got hot and the red turned more to a brown. I may have throwed them away when I sold the last machine ? I have no doubt that I have burnt glass colors with a polishing machine and seen others do the same.
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I've been telling people this is an mf Christensen
wvrons replied to chocomibs's topic in Marble I.D.'s
I agree with Cheese. Many different companies and people made hand gathered slags with a 9 pattern. Spreading assumption information is about the highest thing giving this hobby a bad reputation with new collectors and buyers. There is a big difference in assuming what something might be and telling people it is such. Because no one corrects you does not make it a accurate identification on just a assumption. More than just being a hand gathered 9 pattern is needed for a identification. An id might be this marble looks hand gathered and has a 9 pattern. Unless you have more known traits to place it with one certain company, name, place or time. It may be a rare marble. It needs some research from reliable resources to find out for sure. I have found a lot of different opinions on CAC Blue Devil and CAC Red Devil, if it is CAC ? There are also some odd and rare Barberton , Lieghton and other hand gathered marbles with the 9. If it was made in the US ? -
Ground and polished Peltier Superman. Stay away. The first picture shows of half moons that have been ground half away. Also a chip with sharp edges where it was ground. The colors have been ground thin and burnt from the grinding to long and or got to hot because the liquid with the grinding grit ran empty. I agree there is white polishing compound left in the very small a deep not smooth places. The red color is brunt bad and stretched thin and so wide. That it looks like a Vacor. Ground and polished.
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If you want to learn about marbles, attend a show. If you want to see marbles for sale identified correctly, attend a show. If you want marbles at good prices, attend a show. If you want to see and handle a big variety of marbles and some rare ones, attend a show. If you want to make some lifetime marble friends, attend a show. But it is not free. It takes time, gasoline and a hotel room. But like many things in life, you get what you pay for.
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Having marbles graded for condition/encased?
wvrons replied to TNG's topic in General Marble & Glass Chat
I have run into several who said they were marble appraisers and would do identifications. But none ever have lasted one year. I would be VERY careful and CAUTIOUS with this. It always comes down to they want money. Which a certified insured company that did it would need money to operate the business. But as of today I have never found or know of any licensed certified marble appraiser. I checked into that different places for a year. To be licensed and or certified by most states, you have to attend a school for it. You have to have a large base of past verified marble sales within the last year for comparison. You may be called into court to testify as to value which requires a grade. If you are proved wrong you may be sued. Just like real estate appraisers or home inspectors. You need a good lawyer and lots of insurance coverage, if you charge for grading and or appraisals. So beware and do lots of homework of anyone charging for marble grading or appraisals. This is why it is almost impossible to get insurance on marbles. There are no licensed certified appraisers. If you have a written paid receipt from a seller, some insurance companies will cover a loss. Even the USPS will no take any Ebay or Paypal receipt or print out for marble values. So USPS insurance for packages of marbles is useless. Claims under $50.00 can be paid by the local postmaster's decision. But higher amounts and more than one claim will go above the local postmaster and they want a certified licensed appraisal for any loss covered by USPS insurance. I have been here and done this more than once. USPS insurance for marbles over $50.00 is a waste of money and useless. If you have a homeowners insurance that will cover your marbles, it is a very rare policy. If any are available ? MY good friend Bill McCaleb found out this the hard way when his house was broke into and marbles stolen. But they never found his good ones. You have to do the home work and be sure or get disappointed. -
Would this be considered a Peltier Red Angel or Nah? Thanks:) 0.633"
wvrons replied to NeozLilBallz's topic in Marble I.D.'s
A Pelt Rainbo is possible. I just do not see much pink in the Rainbo's. But I see more pink or shades of pink with Akro's. The pink may be a little bit of red with the white and or yellow laying over top of a small thin line of red. Ric knows anyone can disagree with me. I aways wonder why people id certain marbles as such. Maybe they are correct or maybe not ? I just like to know as possible why or their thoughts why. Some marbles are easy to understand and some are not. It is not easy looking at some marbles through another persons eyes and wondering what they see. Or where they got their information for the id. I am here to help as possible but also to learn something more about marbles every day here. Some marbles are straight forward and well known but more plain marbles can be borderline between a couple companies. Some never can be 100% for sure accurate to only one company. Not every marble will have an accurate id. More accurate identifications are known today than ever before. Because we learn more every year. -
Would this be considered a Peltier Red Angel or Nah? Thanks:) 0.633"
wvrons replied to NeozLilBallz's topic in Marble I.D.'s
Looks Akro to me. -
Would this be considered a Peltier Red Angel or Nah? Thanks:) 0.633"
wvrons replied to NeozLilBallz's topic in Marble I.D.'s
A Peltier Red Angel has lots of red. All the Peltier Angels have a tan/brown muddy base. The marble above is not a Peltier at all. -
I do not see anything that looks near a Mountain Dew. I don't know what a Ravenswood Picasso is ? I hope it is a mint range Alley Carnival. Those are $400.00-$500.00 . If so it makes no difference what the others are.
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OK I am still sane.
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Ravenswood Red Raven has NO green, NO cobalt blue, NO other tracers along side in two or three colors. Red Ravens are two colors ONLY. Brown base, with slight different shades of brown, and all have transparent red swirl. A few odd or rare ones can contain some small amount of white. I should know I am the person who named them many years ago. The number one requirement is the color RED. So how would red be the rarest ??? Brown base and red swirl. So it has the name Red, because it has to have red. jhomer2172 - Where did you find your information for a Ravenswood Red Raven ???
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Time for me to stop and go to bed. I thought for sure that you or somebody posted 1993 or 1994 ? My bad.
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I've been telling people this is an mf Christensen
wvrons replied to chocomibs's topic in Marble I.D.'s
Why are you telling people it is a MFC ? -
Vitro All Reds = a white base with one red patch and a patch of a different color.