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Vitro guide made by Kevin Roberts with help of Chuck Brandstetter, myself and others. It was and still is originally posted on All About Marbles for many years(probably 12-15 years). It has been copied other places with and without permission. Probably the best Vitro guide on the internet. It describes Blackies well. Plus many other Vitro marbles. No guide anyplace will describe and picture all the different marbles Vitro made for 56 years at millions per week. There is a big difference between Blackie and Black Line All Red. Blackie has nothing to do with any All Red. Black Line All Red is the earliest All Red. After some years the black or dark line around the middle of the All Reds disappeared. The black or dark line around the middle was eliminated to cut cost. Competition causes cost cutting. Cost cutting and quality goes down. Less colors added to the marbles. Black Line All Red ALL Red Blackie Anti Blackie Reverse Blackie Whitie Tiger Eyes Aquamarine Different Conquerors Superior Tri Lite Buttermilk And many more Vitro named marbles. Each one has certain requirements to be the named marbles. I think there are 55 to 60 different named Vitro marbles. Vitro probably made 500 or a thousand different marbles or maybe more ? Some were named by the Vitro Company and some were named by collectors. This above holds true for many of the US machine made marble companies. Peltier named marbles are in the hundreds. Many marbles have a name for a reason. Vitro named the All Red. Why ??????? Red was always kids favorite color. Vitro wanted the kids to see red when a marble rolled or was shot. So they made sure each All Red marble had a red patch on it. They named those marbles All Reds. When a All Red rolls red always flashes. Black LIne All Reds and then All Reds plus Conquerors types are a couple of the largest numbers of marbles Vitro produced steady over all the years. Black Line All Red and All Red are different marbles. One word or sometimes one letter makes a difference. Rainbo or Rainbow = two different companies and very different marbles.

No name, just three color Vitro Boulder . All Red is white base with a red patch and a patch of a different color. No three color All Reds.

Looks purple rose and mint green, and maybe brown. I don't see red or blue.

Vitro Blackie has a black or dark band around the center with the same color patches on each side or each pole. Also there are Anti Blackies and Reverse Blackies.

I was scratching my head ???? I think there were more than two of us confused.

Don't set that Sulfide in the window on a wood or plastic window sill.

MK

I agree Black Line All Red. Always a white base, always one red patch, and a second patch of a different color, with a dark line of color around the center or middle. All Red with a dark line or color around the middle between the two patches of two other colors. The early or first Vitro All Reds. Some, especially larger size ones can twist and swirl.

My best guess is Ravenswood or Alox.

Alley

Type one and one of the top three most common color combinations.

A little out of round.

I agree Victory.

X3 Alley from Sistersville and Pennsboro locations. Not sure what a turkey swirl is ?

I ask a Vitro plant manager what the goal was or what he considered a Parrot. He sadi that it was a 7/8 inch white base with four other colors. He also said that some did show white and the base never covered 100%. They did make 3/4 inch Parrots later on. Parrots were his favoriet marble. White base with four other colors. Most oof yours are Tiger Eyes a whole different construction.

Paden City MK.

Late St.Marys Alley.

Vitro Tri Lite

Later St.Marys Alleys.

These are Rainbo's many confuse and sell by the name Fruit Cocktail. The true Fruit Cocktail is a earlier NLR. Bill where is your true Fruit Cocktail ? I was with you when you bought it.

Kokomo for me all day long.

No help from me ???

Yep! I did not post any id on the original marble. Because it reminded me of the one above that was identified in Decatur IL near Ottawa, two times by two different long time Peltier collectors, as a Peltier. I posted it intentionally to see if anyone noticed that it looked similar to the original here. Of course it did not take Ric but very little time to pick up on it. I don't have any 100% positive evidence or proof to separate these to Vitro or Peltier. Once again sometimes you get down to two companies and then it is a wall. You have not changed a bit RIC. Sharp as ever. More thoughts Vitro or Peltier ?

I had A few nice CAC and a pair of Ravenswoods in the Saturday auction. No Peltiers. Someone got the two Ravenswoods at half price. I had a group in it of very nice Heatons. Plus a nice group of Cairo Novelty. I had a big variety there. A lined clay, Salasar moon and stars, lots of big corks, popeyes, etc. He has more from me, another variety coming in the April and May auctions. It is much easier than myself doing it on Ebay. Some very nice CAC flames will be in the April auction.

Yes Alley made marbles over one inch. But 3/4 inch is a size he may have produced the less of. Alley made marbles in every size from 7/16 and less, pee wee up to one inch and 1 1/8 inch. The ones over one inch are just oversize form one inch rolls. Alley made 3/4 inch but the numbers are far less than even 7/8 to one inch size. Ravenswood and Alley both made 3/4 inch but the numbers are small compared to the other sizes they produced. After the years of special investor runs at Jabo. The odds of most 3/4 inch swirl marbles fall to Jabo. it has a swirl pattern closer to most Alley than Jabos. But the enlarged picture shows those little dark specks in the thin brown and white. Also a sign for Jabo. The surface looks rougher than most older Alleys. I don't know if I have seen a 3/4 inch with that bright opaque blue base ? Alley has some 5/8 with a lighter blue base with the brown and white swirling and that small turkey head hook in the first pic. But if he is positive that he has had this in his possession since pre 1970. It cannot be Jabo. If it is true that it is from before Jabo began. Then it has to be Alley even at 3/4 inch. Just a darker blue base, especially for Alley 3/4 size. The vast majority of 3/4 inch Alleys are white base. If everything was always 100% with marbles they would be so much easier. But would we miss the challenge ? If before Jabo started making swirls. I would put it with Alley.