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That is fine. Many people have said that I say a lot of funny things about marbles. It is probably true. I still have lots of questions. I learn from all of it. I don't plan to stop looking for answers. I do not think my questions will ever end. The colors just reminded me of some Vitro Anacortes WA marbles.

Nice Conquerors. Most of the standard Conquerors do not excite me. Maybe because of the numbers of them. But ones like above. The Fancy and Exotics, I take notice of.

I agree a great marble and I still think under rated. Much better now than twenty years ago. But still climbing as more and more collectors become aware and because or more numbers of collectors.

Correct ! ST.Marys Alley Ghost.

Cairo Novelty

Which marble ? I don't see any CAC in the group.

Could be but maybe not ? You can find out if you break it thin enough. Then you will find the true color. It may be dark purple or dark green or dark brown ?

Any chance of Vitro Anacortes ?

Both Vitro.

I end up at least once or twice a year in this same discussion, end of day-end of cane.

The more eyes, the more heads, the more thoughts, the more accurate the answer will be in the end. We finally got all the pieces of the puzzle and put it together.

Alley

The rest are later Alleys from the St.Marys location 1937 to 1949. I am glad someone thinks 1937-1949 looked new. I guess from 1950 is not as old as I feel. Most of the later St.Marys Alleys are more plain white base and single color swirls. Because like every company, Alley had to cut cost due to much more competition, with many more marble companies. Cut cost and quality goes down.

Odds are with Heaton.

Those in the second row and bottom row look similar to the originals in question. The mystery continues. Someday maybe I can check with Dale Simmons. Dale made up all the trays that was in the office at Jabo. Plus he still has all the same identical trays. Plus maybe only twenty five or a hundred or three hundred were made ? That is small numbers from a normal 2000-5000lbs. or more run.

We stayed overnight a few years ago in Cumming GA with Nola's sister. We went marble hunting for a full day about twenty miles north of Cumming GA. Why didn't we find anything like these ? Then the big snow storm hit GA that night. With people stuck in their cars for 24-36 hours straight. Nice find.

It has been a great discussion, searching, and learning.

If it is opaque how is light getting through it ? Or maybe it is just the pictures. But it looks like there is a good amount of light coming through the yellow base glass. Both colors look transparent with light coming through. I see bubbles inside the base glass. Cannot do that if it is opaque.

Agree. Made with Fenton Art glass pink cullet.

There is transparent red in the group picture from Bocci. Clear or crystal was available 100% of the time at Jabo. Many times it was ten tons of clear whiskey bottles.

For sure not a St.Marys Ghost. The blue base works for any Alley site. But that pattern and what may be three colors looks older than most St.Marys Alley marbles. There are a few very nice Bacon pattern marbles from St.Marys. But more plain ones than with multicolor sharp lines and colors that dive 90 degrees into the marble. Maybe very early St.Marys of late Pennsboro. Many times it is a good guess as to which site many Alleys were produced. Many marbles carried over from one site to another. Some are very unique to only one site. But more were produced at more than one Alley site. Like the opaque white base and blue flames. Flames with five to a dozen points. From Sistersville, Pennsboro and St.Marys Alley factory locations.

Much more likely the striping glass may have been old Alley cullet, The base glass would most times take lots and lots of cullet. At least 500 or 1000lbs. The striping glass might only need 5 or 10 lbs. to do several thousand marbles. But if they had 100lb. of transparent red, red transparent could be run as base for a short time. But the switch or transformation from transparent red to white may look pink for a short while ?

I agree those are not a match. If those are examples of all they made during the Jalley run ? But they are the same exact construction, cut lines and patterns. Maybe the red base ran out and switched to this white base, with some of the red left. Maybe that is why some of yours are more red base and some more white base ? Just my thoughts or possibles.

Jeff would know. As with my earlier post. I thought they might have been made be after 2012 at Jabo. They made several runs of 5/8 inch with nice cut lines. The Alley cullet is probably the blue and from Rick See. The dark lines are the red base glass. If the opaque white is thick and covers the base they will look more opaque. No way is there any Peltier close to these. I do not have much doubts these are from the Jabo 3-15-2015 named Jalley run. I took Alley cullet to Jabo and made marbles with it more than once. Bill M. and myself had Dave M. add a gallon of Alley pure white chalk dug at Pennsboro to a furnace at Jabo. It never showed up on any marble, probably melted, mixed inside the marbles or burned up. Hoped for Jabo/Alley chalkie marbles. But it would have taken much more chalk if any chance or working.

I think it may be a corkscrew.