Onionskin With Flame Points

[mmuehlba]

well I know it is on the well played with area but never remember seeing any with flame points for sure an end of day . here are some pics of as found in one of the bags from the other post . who has a flame onionskin Mike

It is about 1 5/8 in size and a big chip but all in the clear nothing in the onionskin color .

I think I will be talking to Rich about a reheat . Mike

[jeeperman]

Looks like someone may have begun to polish it. That would also account for the flamelike look.

[mmuehlba]

Looks like someone may have begun to polish it. That would also account for the flamelike look.

never been tried as the flames are below the outer glass , I think it has to be cooked or just waxed . Mike

[Alan]

They aren't "flames" - they are simply ends of frit that are stretched at the pontils.... just like every other onionskin. This one was possibly an end of cane - so the color is stretched a bit more.

[david Chamberlain]

The machine made term flame just can't be translated to onionskins. It ain't happening! I'm all for finding the unusual in a marble but there's a perfectly reasonable handmade explanation for what is happening here and Alan has pretty much covered it. David

[mmuehlba]

The machine made term flame just can't be translated to onionskins. It ain't happening! I'm all for finding the unusual in a marble but there's a perfectly reasonable handmade explanation for what is happening here and Alan has pretty much covered it. David

. just like every other onionskin. "O" and I thought this was not like many around . wish I could see more pictures like this common onionskin Mike

[david Chamberlain]

I suppose I was a little demonstrative in my comment and Ditto Head with Alan; I just have a thing about traditional/historical handmade definitions and characteristics. David

[midmo]

my wrong

[lstmmrbls]

Very neat oddity Mike.

[ziggyzora]

Hi, is this the type you are talking about?

[lstmmrbls]

Does not really look much at all like the first one IMO

[ziggyzora]

Does not really look much at all like the first one IMO

ok, how about this one? If I have completely missed the point here please enlighten! thanks

[jeeperman]

I think both of them are of the same Kin. Either that or I am missing something right along with you. lol

[Alan]

ok, how about this one? If I have completely missed the point here please enlighten! thanks

I don't know that there is any specific point here - other than noting that color frit on onionskins is pulled to thread shapes as they are necked down from the cane with a pair of jacks. This is pretty universal due to how cane marbles are made with frit - and that the pontils have a clear window into the marble. Any viscous material will pull to a point - and hot glass is no exception.

[Steph]

The colors seem to have run out earlier than usual on Mike's.

Also, more conspicuously uneven. Yes, a little like flames randomly spitting. (:

[lstmmrbls]

eggzackery! The threads all meet at the pontil on the last 2 marbles. They sure don't come close on Mikes.

[1DanS]

as close as i could get:

thanks.

[david Chamberlain]

I think all we need to do to add to the general confusion that exists out there is to being applying the sacrosanct 'Flame' designation to Onionskins. Next thing you know we will be imagining double-ended flames, pin-striping, striations and so forth. I can actually imagine us counting flaring finger flames in Onionskins. Yikes! David

[1DanS]

"?". can't we have a little fun here? i honestly believe we are not going to see any "flaming onionskins" for sale or id'd as by any knowledgeable collector any time soon.

thanks.

[mswitzer3]

The machine made term flame just can't be translated to onionskins. It ain't happening! I'm all for finding the unusual in a marble but there's a perfectly reasonable handmade explanation for what is happening here and Alan has pretty much covered it. David

wow david your right on as usual