JVVmarbles Posted February 7, 2013 Report Share Posted February 7, 2013 Here's a pic of 6 single pontil marbles from my collection. I love these marbles with blobs of colour! The largest is 1-9/16", and only has red blobs, on a light blue base and an outer clear casing. really strange marble. I'd love to see pics of other marbles like these! so please post them here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clydetul62 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 Very nice Jeroen. I love these type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manddrakes Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 I like the bright colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissmarble Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 OK, Jeroen, you know mines already, but it might be interesting for others to see them. I hope others will post some pictures too, it is one of my favourite type of marbles and there are not many to see in books. So, show you treasures, please. Thanks ! Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVVmarbles Posted February 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 OK, Jeroen, you know mines already, but it might be interesting for others to see them. I hope others will post some pictures too, it is one of my favourite type of marbles and there are not many to see in books. So, show you treasures, please. Thanks ! Ron Thanks, Ron for posting yours! you have some of the finest examples of this type of marble I've ever seen. I also hope to see more pics from others!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg11 Posted February 8, 2013 Report Share Posted February 8, 2013 stunning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Those are some pretty unique examples, don't know how many others but I'd like to see them as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Thanks, Ron for posting yours! you have some of the finest examples of this type of marble I've ever seen. I also hope to see more pics from others!!! Hi Jeroen (and Ron), Very beautiful and rare marbles, thanks for posting. Not many collectors in the US have similar marbles, unless of course, recently bought from European sellers. These bright colored marbles are found more in Europe and not seen much in the US. Could it be that they were made at a time when German marbles were no longer being imported into the US, say between the World Wars? Hansel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVVmarbles Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Hi Jeroen (and Ron), Very beautiful and rare marbles, thanks for posting. Not many collectors in the US have similar marbles, unless of course, recently bought from European sellers. These bright colored marbles are found more in Europe and not seen much in the US. Could it be that they were made at a time when German marbles were no longer being imported into the US, say between the World Wars? Hansel Hi Hansel, yes, you're right, these marbles were made in Germany when they no longer exported marbles to the USA. They all have bright colours (the so called 'English style') and rough pontils. They've only been showing up in US collections because of European dealers selling them on eBay etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Interesting. there are other incredible single pontil marbles from earlier as well, but not often in that style I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissmarble Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Hi Hansel, yes, you're right, these marbles were made in Germany when they no longer exported marbles to the USA. They all have bright colours (the so called 'English style') and rough pontils. They've only been showing up in US collections because of European dealers selling them on eBay etc. I still believe these were made before World War I. I just can't imagine that the Germans were able to produce handmade marbles after World War I. The country was totally down by then and I guess they had other priorities than producing marbles. I noticed that several of these marbles showed up in England, so they probably have been exported once. But who knows... interesing topic. Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest browse4antiques Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Here are pics of a pair of marbles that I found together in the wild some years ago. They are each about 1.5", and based on the colors, they are same cane. It makes sense that this type of cloud is first off a joseph-coat cane. ... Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Agreed that most would have ended up as Joseph coat style. Good examples Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Here are pics of a pair of marbles that I found together in the wild some years ago. They are each about 1.5", and based on the colors, they are same cane. It makes sense that this type of cloud is first off a joseph-coat cane. ... Roger Canada, without their own marble making machinery, probably kept importing marbles from Europe after the US had stopped. Amongst other types of German marbles found more commonly in Canada than in the US are large ribbon (and maybe other) lutz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest browse4antiques Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I've found far more lutz than I have NLRs (which it appears were not imported to Canada). ... Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVVmarbles Posted February 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I still believe these were made before World War I. I just can't imagine that the Germans were able to produce handmade marbles after World War I. The country was totally down by then and I guess they had other priorities than producing marbles. I noticed that several of these marbles showed up in England, so they probably have been exported once. But who knows... interesing topic. Ron I also think they were made before WW I, around 1900-1905. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'llhavethat1 Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 For some reason I want to say the original post, left most one may be a bit older than the rest. The big red one in the same pic, so that's a blue base? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 I would agree with Swissmarble on the time lines although a few years after WWI is a possibility in my way of thinking but before the great depression which ravages Germany much worse than the USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 Ron, In an earlier post you said "I just can't imagine that the Germans were able to produce handmade marbles after World War I. The country was totally down by then and I guess they had other priorities than producing marbles." But here are two sides of a flyer from Glasfabrik Wernerhutte showing marbles for sale. It's undated, but I would guess from well after WW2, no? regards, Hansel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 It's undated, but I would guess from well after WW2, no? I don't know what you'd consider well after, but by the design and typography I'd say at least sometime in the 1920s . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swissmarble Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Ron, In an earlier post you said "I just can't imagine that the Germans were able to produce handmade marbles after World War I. The country was totally down by then and I guess they had other priorities than producing marbles." But here are two sides of a flyer from Glasfabrik Wernerhutte showing marbles for sale. It's undated, but I would guess from well after WW2, no? regards, Hansel Hi Hansel That is a really interesting leaflet. I tried to do some research in the internet. I found this book here in which all the glass-manufacturers in Germany were published, the "Glasfabrik Wernerhuette" too. The book was published in 1907. http://archive.org/stream/deutschlandsgla00unkngoog#page/n2/mode/2up But more interesting is the fact, that on "your" leaflet is mentioned that they also produce glass-parts for radios ! According to google the first radio-station in Germany was on air in 1923 ! So the leaflet has to be published later, my guess is between 1925 and 1933, when Hitler was elected for chancellor. So this leaflet proves that marbles like sulphides, onionskins and swirls were definately produced between WW I and WW II which is very interesting because I (and probably most other collectors) always have thougth that no such marbles have been produced after WW I !! So the time range for these marbles has to be approximately from 1870 to 1930 or so. Really really interesting, thanks a lot for posting it ! Ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 In 1924 There was still advertised for German marbles. Because America itself had a flourishing marble industry at that time and cheaper by mechanization,it's obvious that America no longer need to import German marbles. Till 1930 Germany had a great toy industrie. here's an advertisment from 1924 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest browse4antiques Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 Paul Baumann says in his (4th edition) book, that no lutz marbles were made before WWI. ... Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdesousa Posted February 15, 2013 Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Hi Hansel That is a really interesting leaflet. I tried to do some research in the internet. I found this book here in which all the glass-manufacturers in Germany were published, the "Glasfabrik Wernerhuette" too. The book was published in 1907. http://archive.org/s...age/n2/mode/2up But more interesting is the fact, that on "your" leaflet is mentioned that they also produce glass-parts for radios ! According to google the first radio-station in Germany was on air in 1923 ! So the leaflet has to be published later, my guess is between 1925 and 1933, when Hitler was elected for chancellor. So this leaflet proves that marbles like sulphides, onionskins and swirls were definately produced between WW I and WW II which is very interesting because I (and probably most other collectors) always have thougth that no such marbles have been produced after WW I !! So the time range for these marbles has to be approximately from 1870 to 1930 or so. Really really interesting, thanks a lot for posting it ! Ron Ron, that is an interesting publication. For the German impaired members of this list, here are the English translations of the marble factories of 1907 as well as 1927: http://tinyurl.com/adqgeyb http://tinyurl.com/b3rf24t I've heard (don't remember where, sorry, and it may or may not be true) that German marble production ceased abruptly when Germany went to war in 1939, but after the war, handmade marbles continued to be made right into the 1960's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVVmarbles Posted February 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2013 Hi Hansel That is a really interesting leaflet. I tried to do some research in the internet. I found this book here in which all the glass-manufacturers in Germany were published, the "Glasfabrik Wernerhuette" too. The book was published in 1907. http://archive.org/s...age/n2/mode/2up But more interesting is the fact, that on "your" leaflet is mentioned that they also produce glass-parts for radios ! According to google the first radio-station in Germany was on air in 1923 ! So the leaflet has to be published later, my guess is between 1925 and 1933, when Hitler was elected for chancellor. So this leaflet proves that marbles like sulphides, onionskins and swirls were definately produced between WW I and WW II which is very interesting because I (and probably most other collectors) always have thougth that no such marbles have been produced after WW I !! So the time range for these marbles has to be approximately from 1870 to 1930 or so. Really really interesting, thanks a lot for posting it ! Ron Radio's were made and used before 1923, in WW1 they used a lot of radio's for military purposes. See: http://earlyradiohistory.us/1919bru.htm so it's possible to leaflet is also from an earlier date and they made glass parts for these types of radio's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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