lstmmrbls Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 Did any one look at this marbles condition before writing the add. http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-8-COBALT-BLUE-GUINEA-CHRISTENSEN-MARBLE-/360773520271?pt=Marbles&hash=item53ffc70b8f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeperman Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 I am thinking not! The certainly posted those pics with their eyes closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Marbles Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 The dark center's of the spots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeroen Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 That is what I discussing with other collectors also. There is a correct grading like Marble Alan used as grading, and a Morphy grading. Is there some one out there who is willing to contact Dan Morphy, because I think Morphy is loosing there credibility. Not long ago they had a Jenny Lind sulphide on ebay. The same issue. A lot of damage, and still grading it mint-. Or Morphy is thinking that they have such a good reputation that they can grade marbles with lots of damage as being mint, and think that collectors will believe them. Like: "when we (morphy) are saying this is mint it is mint!". This marble has at least 100 flea bites. Mint-, 9.0 -9-2, means at the Marble Alan grading no missing glass, except for some microscopic pinprics. Jeroen Pater (not Jeroen van Valkenburg) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeroen Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 And here is an other: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-31-32-SPREAD-WINGED-EAGLE-SULPHIDE-MARBLE-/360772747284?pt=Marbles&hash=item53ffbb4014 Graded 9.7!!!! Do they not know at Morphy's what 9.7 means? It means mint+ NO DAMAGE VISIBLE, NOT EVEN UNDER MAGNIFICATION! This marble is not even in the mint range. Here is the Marble Alan grading which is the correct one in my opinion. 10.0 (Pristine): This describes a perfect marble, with a "wet," clean surface even under magnification. All contemporary marbles should have this grade, though very few antique or vintage marbles will ever be graded as such. 9.7-9.9 (Mint +): There is no damage present, even under magnification, though the marble is not quite a perfect "10." 9.3-9.6 (Mint): To the unaided eye, this describes a marble with no damage, though under magnification there may be one or two pinpricks, a hint of wear, or an abrasion or rub spot. Marbles in this range may have a small "as-made" such as a pinprick-sized blow-out pit or a touch spot. 9.0-9.2 (Mint -): Mint (-) marbles will have no missing glass, with the exception perhaps of some microscopic pinpricks. There may be minor wear, a sparkle or two, or a tiny subsurface reflection or moon. 8.7-8.9 (Near Mint +): These marbles are almost in the Mint range, but may have a tiny flake or moon, or two, as well as a few sparkles, subsurface reflections/moons, minor "as-mades," and/or minor wear. Near Mint (+) marbles will have at least one angle from which they view Mint. 8.3-8.6 (Near Mint): This range describes marbles that have the same sort of description seen on Near Mint (+) marbles, only to a higher degree. One side should still be viewed Mint. 8.0-8.2 (Near Mint -): These marbles will have the same sort of damage seen on specimens in the upper Near Mint ranges but only more so. No side will be viewable as Mint, but the damage will not be deep or cover more than one quarter of the marble's surface, with the exception of overall wear. Jeroen Pater (not Jeroen van Valkenburg) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted October 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 William, the dark spots are probably dirt filled holes if you look at all the damage that easily shows along the right edge of the marble in the first pic. IMO that marble is not even NM. And as Jeroen points out on the sulphide why put MAY HAVE BEEN BUFFED when the sharp edged bubble pops are fairly obvious signs it was IMO. Andd yet they still rate it 9.7. Why rate it if they think it has been buffed??????$$$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeperman Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 That marble is roached! I don't have one of these yet and NM would not be an issue at the right price....this marble would not cut it. Not at all what I would expect from Morphy's but I will surely be aware now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Racer Posted October 28, 2013 Report Share Posted October 28, 2013 Roached...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHSLAYERMARRBLEGRIFF Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Thats one of those,"Ebay Mint",marbles,,,,,,,,,,,LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTAndrea Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Hmmm, I've never bid on a Morphy's auction and now I know to stay away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m!b$ Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 On Oct-28-13 at 11:21:07 PDT, seller added the following information: ****WE HONESTLY BELIEVE SOME OF THE IMPERFECTIONS ON THIS MARBLE TO BE AS-MADE. THE PICTURES ALMOST MAKE THE IMPERFECTIONS APPEAR WORSE THAN THEY ARE. WITH THIS BEING SAID THE MARBLE IS BEING SOLD AS IS. Were these pictures taken in a snowstorm? http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-8-ONIONSKIN-LUTZ-MARBLE-/360772819956?pt=Marbles&hash=item53ffbc5bf4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg11 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg11 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 lol you have to see this one! http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-11-16-SHEEP-SULPHIDE-MARBLE-/261313743151?pt=Marbles&hash=item3cd783492f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg11 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 11 people bid on this lot, and you cant even see it... OMG http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-OF-2-SULPHIDE-MARBLES-/261313738747?pt=Marbles&hash=item3cd78337fb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeperman Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Wow, it took some effort to make images that bad. I can just barely see the damage lurking. This just looks purposely deceptive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Marbles Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 LOL, maybe I can be the picture taker!!! Hope this isn't a preview of the 12-9 Auction. Both auction say 9.5 condition.... looks like a lot of missing glass to me. Anyway just adjusted with PS.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m!b$ Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Must be some kind of sociological experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg11 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 I think its called... Dan is a marble collector and is cherry picking,and then there is Brian...the ex walmart manager lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg11 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 jeroen - "marble may have been buffed" but still going to give it a grade of 9.7 LOL, american pickers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg11 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 “SOME NICKS TO SOME.” LOT OF 28 INDIAN MARBLES. RANGING IN SIZE FROM 19/32" TO 27/32". THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL ASSORTMENT OF INDIAN MARBLES. MOST ARE 9.0+ CONDITION. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted November 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 Just to let every one know Brian has nothing to do with these ebay sales or grading them. So must be someone that can't see and lost their glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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