Steph Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Do we still have Akro milky oxbloods? Are they Alley now? Are some Akro and some Alley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeperman Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 As far as I know we do, although there is some that I might think fit better with Alley. I have some in an Akro packaged bag, rather doubt they got them from Alley. I just think there may also be some very similar marbles from Alley that were attributed to Akro before anyone cared to figure there may be other makers. Why do you ask Steph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted January 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Saw some attributed to (or guessed as) Alley, which reminded me that wasn't the first time I saw them attributed to Alley, and I don't know enough about any of them. And in another conversation, about Akro Imperials being thought to be silver oxbloods, I did think of your Hy-Grade bag with the milky ones, and Hy-Grade bags in general, containing swirls ... and I wondered ... were all those swirls Akro .... or did Akro maybe buy some from Alley after all. Do you see differences between the ones you think of as Akro and the ones you think of as Alley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeperman Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 I do see some differences in some, it is mostly having to look at the pattern and to a lesser degree about the oxblood. Most times I keep those thought to myself until such time I can prove it somehow. I have brought it up in the past and many avid Akro fans defend the akro ID with a passion. but there are some that I surely think make more sense as alley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeperman Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 One candidate would be this one, I think it could be Alley. When in hand by itself it looks white with a slight blue tint. Set it next to a milky and it is robins egg blue. But I have been assured it is Akro and sometimes they were a little blue-ish....really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jeeperman Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 For comparison purposes, notice as well the ending of the ox is very sharp as if painted on the milky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeperman Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Also, in my Akro Milky collage, top row third marble in.....I have always suspected Alley and always told I was wrong. I am still not sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted January 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 In the pair above that is a considerable contrast, in both the color and the ribbon ends. And from your end you're seeing some of the color as more on the surface and some deeper in? Third in on this collage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprchik Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Can I use this post as a perfectly good reason to share my first (you tell me ...Akro?) milky ox? It just came in the mail the other day! And also I'm quite interested in this discussion. I hadn't even realized some were thought to be Alley. But now you say it, I totally see what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeperman Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Yes, Steph. On the blue one the ox appears to dive deep and surface again elsewhere. On the Milky it just ends, no diving. And in the collage, that 3rd marble has tan flame like pattern long and thin. These couple of streamers in tan are seen on occasion in alley. These are in this case edged in ox, something else you see often in alley, the thin lines of ox following pattern. Of course with all the argument I get to the contrary they are still just my thoughts of things I think I see. In the collage the base of that marble looks very white and not so translucent, but I know the milkies do vary so that is just an addition and not a defining characteristic. So far the one in the collage is staying there, I question it sometimes and other times I do not. But the blue one I see as different. Super, again the base is really white for a milkie but I would be more likely that than alley. The ends of the ox are more Akro like. Don't get me wrong, they are supposed to be white, just sometimes the look more stark white. =} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted January 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Krystal's ox looks painted on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeperman Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Yes it does have that look. Good morning Steph. =} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted January 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Good morning. I remember back when I never thought about milkies being Alley, and we did see some with diving oxblood ribbons ... I remember this in the context of discussions were people would ask us to judge from photographs if they had oxblood, and it was difficult when the ribbon dived, because the way the light played with the clear glass over the ribbon sometimes made the ox look like light was passing through it. Which stopped people from wanting to ID it as ox. But now I don't remember anything about the ribbons other than that sometimes they submerged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted January 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Do we have pix of the innards of milkies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofKent Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 18 minutes ago, Steph said: Do we have pix of the innards of milkies? You're not suggesting bringing out a hammer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted January 14, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 noooooooooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeperman Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 Sorry I have no milky innards, I can say there are a couple on that collage at the bottom that have an extra bit of clear and some of the ox is under the surface, how far I do not know. Wouldn't it be interesting if not all we know as Akro milkies are not? Just thoughts to ponder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted January 14, 2018 Report Share Posted January 14, 2018 21 hours ago, Steph said: On the subject of "insides" - here is a photo of a broken Akro milky oxblood - exterior and interior. Sorry the focus is off: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted January 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2018 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal3 Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 Just my 2 cents - that blueish ox sure “smells” less like an Akro and more like an Alley to me, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeperman Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 I am right there with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprchik Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 I just read on FB someone claiming that "Alley doesn't have an "Oxblood"." Is this a common misconception? Is Alley oxblood (in general, not just on milky bases) a rather "new" discovery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeeperman Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 It is not new and those not knowing is not new, even those that do not consider anything but Akro ox being oxblood is not new. lol What page did you see this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprchik Posted January 17, 2018 Report Share Posted January 17, 2018 "Marble-Heads" group, a comment in this post (public group, anyone should be able to see the post & the comments even if not a member) -- https://www.facebook.com/groups/1237610796333009/permalink/1607130712714347/ I didn't want to start what could be interpreted as an argument, LOL (had enough of that already), so haven't commented on the 'Alley doesn't have Oxblood' claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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