Big wirepull? By whom?

[Chris Parson]

32 mm (1,26”)

 

[Ric]

I would guess Vacor on that one.

[Chad G.]

I agree with Ric, trapped air bubble in the center & orange peel, both common to but not exclusively "Vacor"

[Chris Parson]

30 minutes ago, Ric said:

I would guess Vacor on that one.

Thanks, Ric!

 

16 minutes ago, Chad G. said:

I agree with Ric, trapped air bubble in the center & orange peel, both common to but not exclusively "Vacor"

Right! Now I remember seeing that, with the bubble, in Stephen’s video. 👍🏼

[PittsburghMarbles]

Def not Veiligglas, other than that I couldn't tell ya. 

[akroorka]

 Chinese in my opinion. It seems to be out of round. Research larger asian made mables---link is below---

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Customized-Hand-Made-Hard-Small-Hand_62226173220.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_title.49be109e4ecKsl

Marble--On!!!

[Chad G.]

The ones in your link say "Hand Made" & have multi colored ribbons, although I can't really fathom 1 ton let alone 5 tons being "Handmade". The marble pictured above is machine made, no pontil or torch marks. The Vacor's pictured below where made at least 30mm (1.181") maybe 50 mm (1.968") all machine made. The Atmosphere marbles were the only handmades Vacor put out to my knowledge ?? I think the out of round your seeing is from the camera angle used, since it appears to be out of round and elongated the same way in every picture no matter the position of the marble. I was given several Vacor over 1.25" every one is visually out of round, the only one that comes close is a smaller 1 &11/16ths" Michelangelo.

LINK : https://www.billes-en-tete.com/liste_billes.php?lang=en

 

Chinese marble link :

 

 A pic of the 1 & 11/16ths" Michelangelo, almost in round but not quite, note the heavy orange peel effect surface, every large Vacor I have has at least a little orange peel on the surface if not the entire surface.

These appear to be almost identical to the Chinese ones you gave the link to, I can see the orange peel on the surface of the big one pictured here also.

 

Nevertheless it "could" be Chinese ?? All the big modern machine mades seem to exhibit the orange peel surface to some extent, I was just adding up the factors pointing to Vacor as the manufacture. Only familiar with the Chinese "Parachute" & other Chinese torchmades like the ones they fill the new Akro boxes with, smaller but they are handmade, eliminating the chance of an orange peel surface.

 

[akroorka]

We can all agree on one thing, it is not a wirepull. Just too many ends of the stream.

It is great to see such passion on a marble such as this. Keep up the good work and keep the ID's coming. We can all agree to disagree at one point or another. We should all call them as we see them regardless of the outcome.

I love this stuff.

Marble--On!!!

[Chad G.]

35 minutes ago, akroorka said:

We can all agree on one thing, it is not a wirepull. Just too many ends of the stream.

It is great to see such passion on a marble such as this. Keep up the good work and keep the ID's coming. We can all agree to disagree at one point or another. We should all call them as we see them regardless of the outcome.

I love this stuff.

Marble--On!!!

Yeah Buddy !! 

[wvrons]

I agree with both of you ! It is not a wirepull. I always agree to Marble On !   If we never disagree, then we all, know it all and I will find another hobby. But no worries about that. 

[Al Oregon]

Vacor (Mega) Spaghetti aka Streamer.  

[akroorka]

Thanks Al, for kicking the sleeping dog. Old dogs need to be woken up once in awhile.

Here is the true link to my opinion on this one and hopefully a wakeup call to the mass influx of Chinese marbles that are flooding the market worldwide. It is very obvious to me that that Chinese are in the business of competing with Vacor.

I just hope that the Chinese stick with the quantity over quality idea that they have had for years in the many various markets that they seem to have intruded on with little remorse.

I urge you all to research Ali-Baba for marbles and come to the same conclusion that I have.

I think that quality is still owned by our cousins to the south—arguably of course.

Marble—On!!! and be aware--on as well!!!

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Toy-Marbles-Glass-Marble-Wholesale-Cheap_1600132768893.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_title.50604b89u8a55I&s=p