Fire1981 Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 This is another veneered Conquer right ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 I'm GUESSING that this one will come up as "Exotic Conqueror". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 Or maybe another Type 3 Tiger Eye? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 That's what I would have wanted. But with the other marbles Rick was posting ... and with the mysterious "exotic conqueror" and "fancy conqueror" names floating around ... and with my awareness of about five years of Vitro patches coming between the standard conquerors and the Tiger Eyes, I feel shaky here. Soooooo ... with the topic fresh on my mind from another thread, I googled for exotic conquerors and found this AAM picture. Talk to me about this. Any Tiger Eyes here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 Diane Brandstetter attached the name Exotic to these about twenty years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 6 hours ago, Steph said: Talk to me about this. Any Tiger Eyes here? I have no idea why the upper left one would be called an Exotic - looks like a Tiger Eye to me - maybe the base glass isn't clear transparent? It seems like there has to be more to the Exotic name than the fact that there are striations (incomplete coverage) in the white equatorial ribbons. The bottom one appears to have colored base glass - maybe that's it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted May 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 I thought this one was opaque. I was surprised when I back lit and it was veneered. This one tricked me. Thanks for the example pics Steph 🔥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 6 hours ago, Steph said: Talk to me about this. Any Tiger Eyes here? I was just poking around and found this pic . . . interesting? http://www.gaiser.org/vitro/ All the marbles are the same - except the upper left one . . . hmmmm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 I think color combination also plays a role for Exotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 18 minutes ago, wvrons said: I think color combination also plays a role for Exotic. I'm thinking about that chart Chuck B. or Mike A. made to describe all of the possible color combinations for Tiger Eyes. Does your comment mean that we shouldn't expect to see Tiger Eyes with these "Exotic" color combos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted May 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 The marble in the bottom right is of interest to me. It’s the only one with an active matrix. I don’t think it’s a veneered marble like the other ones. Or is it both ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire1981 Posted May 10, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 Did the veneered ribbons get “sucked up” and end up in the matrix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, Fire1981 said: The marble in the bottom right is of interest to me. It’s the only one with an active matrix. I don’t think it’s a veneered marble like the other ones. Or is it both ? It is not too uncommon for what should have been a veneer to dip into the matrix on occasion. I have seen it on quite a few marbles that are typically veneered. Think of Phantom Conquerors, for instance, I don't really think that the internal filaments rather than veneer was intentional. The surface vs internal striping on Cosmic Rainbos also seems a bit random. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marbleized Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 Never thought about the similarities. Just wondering, could it be that the exotic doesn't have veneered patches and the Tiger Eye patches are veneered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 The Exotic color combinations above are known as Exotic Conquerors and probably older than Tiger Eye marbles. Many Vitro marbles have Tiger Eye construction. The Vitro Easter Egg is tiger Eye construction. The Vitro Opals have Tiger Eye construction. It is a combination of colors and construction for the named Vitro's. I doubt that the above Exotic color combinations are on Chuck Brandstetters Tiger eye color chart. Karen Day also did a updated color chart for Vitro Tiger Eyes. Some that are not on Chuck's chart and could be classified as type five and type six Tiger Eyes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marbleized Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 Thank you WVRons! I guess even in the world of marbles things are constantly being updated. It's what makes marble collecting interesting for me- the discovery and the discussion that comes out of such a seemingly simple toy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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