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Have it your way!  I'm just saying Paul Bunyans can vary not just in color (or lack thereof - solid green examples exist for example) but also in size up to 15/16th and 1".  You can find a lot of research that confirms this by reputable collectors .  If you don't think the link marble variation is a match- that's fine.  I'll be interested to see what the end consensus is here.  I don't have any other guess.

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8 hours ago, et cetera said:

Have it your way!  I'm just saying Paul Bunyans can vary not just in color (or lack thereof - solid green examples exist for example) but also in size up to 15/16th and 1".  You can find a lot of research that confirms this by reputable collectors .  If you don't think the link marble variation is a match- that's fine.  I'll be interested to see what the end consensus is here.  I don't have any other guess.

I would lean it’s a Master PB.  We have one similar to the OP.  

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On 12/28/2024 at 11:28 AM, marblemanvintagemarbles said:

Size is right at 1" on this one

 

First of all --very nice images--lets get to the rest of the post.

Marble--On!!

19 hours ago, et cetera said:

Looks like a Paul Bunyan ( packaged by Ravenswood but the production is attributed to Master).

Great link --but??

Marble--On!!

17 hours ago, et cetera said:

Link to a thread by Dave Yabarra

Great link "et cetera"--But???.

9 hours ago, VaMarbles said:

I would lean it’s a Master PB.

I have always agreed with "Master" (Master Glass) on these--what is a PB?--I am old--just take another second and type it out.


Our old friend Ron Shaw researched these things like a fox go's after that rabbit that could never be caught.
He was the Expert here--did he ever come to a conclusion @cheese?


Regardless of this –Who really made these??
Do some research like Ron did and try to find out---Maybe----?
These have been researched like no other machine made marble imho.

I want to see them in bags--just sayin.

At this point after a bit of research--the op is either a Ravenswood or a Master Glass made marble.

I just love this stuff!!
Marble—On!!

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1 hour ago, akroorka said:

First of all --very nice images--lets get to the rest of the post.

Marble--On!!

Great link --but??

Marble--On!!

Great link "et cetera"--But???.

I have always agreed with "Master" (Master Glass) on these--what is a PB?--I am old--just take another second and type it out.


Our old friend Ron Shaw researched these things like a fox go's after that rabbit that could never be caught.
He was the Expert here--did he ever come to a conclusion @cheese?


Regardless of this –Who really made these??
Do some research like Ron did and try to find out---Maybe----?
These have been researched like no other machine made marble imho.

I want to see them in bags--just sayin.

At this point after a bit of research--the op is either a Ravenswood or a Master Glass made marble.

I just love this stuff!!
Marble—On!!

PB would be Paul Bunyan.  Thanks Art

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Has anyone seen the PB types in Master or Akro packaging, or any paperwork indicating that Akro or Master sold marbles to Ravenswood?

FWIW, I am convinced that the only PBs Ravenswood actually packaged were in mesh bags and that mesh bags with the "Akro note" attached and all the poly bags were packaged well after they closed.

On 3/22/2023 at 7:15 PM, wvrons said:

A Ravenswood employee was interviewed by myself and Bill McCaleb. Her last name was Elie or Ely. She worked for Ravenswood Novelty before WWII and than again after the war. Her job was packaging marbles in bags and boxes. I showed her some Paul Bunyan marbles and ask her if Ravenswood produced these marbles. Her reply was that she had never ever seen those marbles before.  I showed her the bag of Paul Bunyans Ravenswood Novelty header and the paper note attached to it. She said that as well as she knew that was not packaged at Ravenswood Novelty. 

The first three Paul Bunyan marbles I ever bought many years ago, were from a woman in Ravenswood. She said her brother or uncle made them at Ravenswood. She said that when he gave them to her(about 15-20)that the marbles were still warm. His name was Edwin Safreed. 

Fae Safreed the daughter of Edwin Safreed, told me and others that her Dad made the Paul Bunyan marbles at Ravenswood. I have the marbles which I bought from her Dads collection. Of course it had 5/8-11/16-3/4 inch Ravenswood marbles and 7/8 inch Paul Bunyan marbles. I met Fae at my first marble show, the first Sistersville WV marble show. She said her Dad made the Paul Bunyan marbles on weekends. But not in the marble factory. There was a pottery factory a couple hundred yards below the marble factory. It was Trenle Blake Pottery. I also collected it. It was restaurant pottery white and the usual green stripes. Fae said her Dad made the Paul Bunyan marbles at the pottery factory. There could have been a furnace there. Maybe a 7/8 or one inch marble machine, maybe they were all packaged in the pottery factory ?  There was no extra room for a 7/8 marble machine in the Ravenswood marble factory. 

When Charles Cox was at the Alox third generation run at Jabo. I showed him and ask him if Ravenswood Novelty made these marbles. His reply was, yes we made those. His father Paul Cox owned Ravenswood Novelty after Charles Turnbull.  

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