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I agree this is early. I think I have a couple of similar ones that I have tentatively ID'd as Vitro. But I have never been completely convinced, mainly because of the construction, seams and colors. They are quite unusual for Vitro, IMO. Lately, I have been thinking more about other possibilities like maybe El Agila. But I don't know if El Aguila can have perpendicular seams like Vitros. It's a hard thing to tell from photos and I haven't had nearly enough in hand to know from experience.

They don't impress me as new. The left looks a little more Jabo-esque than the right, at least to me. But I would need more views of both to offer more.

That was definitely a good snag - it's a great example. If it's not already in the "Show us your Vitro's" thread, it should be.

As I remember, and I could be wrong, Ringers were essentially like corking Aces/Imperials so you may be very close, actually. @akroorka I agree, I think Imperials, Aces and Ringers are all basically the same marble in different configurations, and marketed in different ways, similar to Moss Agates, which also come in spiraling and non-spiraling variations.

That's the thing about transparent swirls - they look so good together in a big group! I'd like to see a smaller group photo of everything that's 9/16" or less. 🙂

I had not seen these photos before, Aiko. @davesnothere 's marble looks much more similar to some of these than to the bolitas or other wirepulls in your other post.

The base might glow.

I think the glass on yours looks seedier than the ones Aiko posted here. The striping stream is a bit different too, I think. These look more like thinner Veligglas to me.

Definitely, Dave, if you have similar marbles that you are sure are Taiwanese, please post them. It'd be nice to see more examples.

Taiwanese seems like a reasonable possibility to me too. Am I right that the two you questioned are bigger than the examples you show here? Also, the two marbles in question appear considerably more refined than the examples you show. Based on just these comparisons I would not rule out other possibilities. They certainly could be from a different era but I think they could be from a different producer too.

That's probably one of the best AV Whities I've seen. And I don't remember ever seeing blue AV on Vitro.

Good Alley. The gun metal colored base is harder to find.

That looks like a Peltier Peerless Patch to me, Charlie.

What size are these?

I'd say you're 2/3 correct. I think the last is a Pennsboro Alley.

I think a lot of those are Akro.

The seams on those two marbles look a little different from El Aquias, IMO. They seem deeper and tighter. I would guess they are from somewhere closer to you than to me. 🙂

The more I look at these marbles the more I think they may not be American. I think these may need to be at least temporarily assigned the ID of "Awesome patches of unknown origin". These really are great marbles and they sure look vintage. I think they may have been produced by a company whose production we don't entirely understand. We may or may not already know something about the producer and their marbles. They are quite unique and I don't think I am familiar with their kin.

I enjoy the story and history together with the marbles! This early development of Cat's Eyes is so interesting!

These are still my favorite kind of marbles - swirls, and there are some very nice ones in your post! I am late to comment but it took me a while to move beyond looking at the photos. 🙂 I enjoy looking at marbles and your photography takes that experience to a new level. The detail you are able to capture is a joy to behold. This particular photo is stunning and the marble is one of my favorites too! Thank you for posting!

@Mojo I'd say it's possible, but I think this type of plain marble was produced for a variety of purposes. It'd be pretty cool to find a laticcino in a cod bottle though!

It's kinda funny because I had come to the same conclusion myself about an hour ago after looking at a bunch of El Aguias. It's nice to have someone who knows them far better than I corroborate my thinking. Thanks a bunch, Joep!

Your marble could be a weaker Alley, no doubt about it. On the other hand, I have seen enough of both types to know that some can look nearly identical. Because of this, there are certain examples for which I will not offer an ID opinion one way or the other without having the marble in hand. My main point is that when you see an example like this one it's unwise to simply assume it's an Alley.

Based on participation here, and in the other thread, there doesn't seem to be much interest in pursuing this topic. Please don't feel obligated to post any photos for me, it's really not necessary. I was interested to know how you could use "spin" to separate one company's marbles from another's. You have now shown that Pelts can spin either way. That is enough to satisfy my interests, and I thank you for that. On the other hand, if you are interested in discussing and developing your ideas about how you can assign marbles to different companies based on their "spin", I will be happy to assist by playing the role of devil's advocate.

Can't be that close - I must've gotten half of them wrong. 😄