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made with a torch. no akro in these marbles, unless cullet. seller has a "eddie seese" with same colors. david and a fair amount of vintage to modern knowledge not to know these marbles?

its worrisome when we think'n like at the same time

would that be a bag or a sack

seems a lot more differance in 1" TO 1-1/4" THAN 3/4" TO 1" your probably right though - this is a big marble david

were the 1-1/4" rollers just for "exp." or another purpose industrial caster?? david

I believe a single. but have to wonder how they manipulated the few big ones that exist period. not rollers? or was it. I had another cork that size (tick smaller) mint - smooth, kinda plain black(purple) on white. slick as a onion. had an 1-1/4" "patch" kinda crease'e also, though not to the extent of this one. david

Thanks for looking David sold http://www.ebay.com/...984.m1555.l2649

Now I'm one that thinks more are suspected of being repaired than actually are. On first look I thought this one probably is. I took the photo into my picture program, lightened it and still thought so. Then I noticed the bubbles only appeared over a couple of particular bands of color. I dont know enough about the process to know what this means, so I dont know! Just posting and adding the lightened pic. to share what I saw. David does kinda look modern though. I can not I.D. this marble - course that aint surprising (lol) Looks more Vacor than Akro, maybe Italian.

I will buy it from you. as a lazy corkscrew with "pretty colors" lol Nice marble David

What about a couple more pics. with more light on marble (brighter) Looks like it might be a 4 color popeye, definately a cork and Nice! If the white is wispy - not solid and it appears so, just a lot of it, you have scored. David

Its not a myth and Rons and Davids statement do not say so. The Wissmach glass is the base glass (The only used in all the washes???). The color contained is the scrap out of the tanks. These glasses were not compatable, so the fractures. In this thread nor anywhere else have I read anything that states differant. Rarity?? How many?? Were others made during this time period that were not tank wash???? Champion "Furnace Scraping" marbles, are tank wash marbles. I be done on this. David

Leroy I stand by my original post, the following also lifted from the marblealan site. Quote: "Based on my own observations of these marbles, I have identified at least 14 different color combinations. It is worth describing each of these in ascending order of relative rarity. Style One is about the common, and is always the least fractured. In fact, shining a light through more than 100 I found none that contained annealing fractures. Unfortunately, it also has the least eye appeal. This style has a clear base almost completely filled with dull yellow and white swirls. Most are around 5/8". Style Two is probably the second most common style. After inspecting a sample of these I found that exactly 30% were undamaged while the remainder had at least one sizeable fracture. This style has a clear base with bright yellow swirls with red, and sometimes greenish, highlights. Most are around 19/32". Style Three is the third most common from what I've observed. Many have annealing fractures. This style has a clear base with red and yellow swirls with purple highlights. Most are around 5/8". Style Four is the fourth most common from my observations and most have fractures. This style has a clear base with greenish yellow swirls with brown highlights. This style often exhibits flames and most are around 5/8". Style Five is rare. It contains yellow, pink, and purple swirls in a clear base. Most are around 5/8" and these are tough to find without fractures. Style Six is fairly rare. It contains yellowish orange swirls in a transparent red base. Much of the swirling is inside the marble, not on the surface. Most are around 5/8". Style Seven is rare. It contains yellowish orange swirls in a transparent dark amber base. The swirls are usually inside the marble. Most are around 17/32" and typically seem to be fractured. Style Eight is rare. It contains orange swirls with purple and yellow highlights in a transparent red base. Most are around 5/8". Style Nine is somewhat rare and almost impossible to find without fractures. In fact, out of about a dozen I found all had serious fractures. It contains yellow, brownish purple, and light blue swirls in a clear base. The swirls almost completely fill the marble and often form complex flame patterns. Most are around 5/8". Style Ten is very rare. It contains yellowish green, orange, red, and purple swirls in a transparent red base. Most are around 5/8". Style Eleven is rare. It contains blended yellow and orange swirls in a dark transparent base. Most are around 5/8". Style Twelve is fairly rare. It contains salmon swirls in a dark transparent red base. Most are around 1/2". Style Thirteen is very rare and is similar to Style Eleven. It contains yellow and pink swirls with green and pale blue highlights in a transparent red base. Most are around 5/8". Style Fourteen is very rare. It contains green, brown, red, and purple swirls in a clear base. The one example I've seen measures 19/32" Style Fifteen is fairly rare. It contains yellow and red swirls in a clear base, and differs from Style Two in that the red is more defined, there is more clear glass, and there is less of an amber-tinge to the yellow. The one example I've seen measures 19/32" Style Sixteen is very rare. It contains yellow swirls with red and green highlights in a transparent amber base. This type, which usually measures around 19/32", typically forms frames and is rarely seen without fractures. Style Seventeen is uncommon and seems to found in 5/8"-21/32" sizes. It does no seem to fracture as easily as many others. The base on this type is transparent cherry red, with bright yellow swirls that blend to orange where it meets the red base." end quote: David

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I beliieve they are the same Leroy. "Furnace" being the name attached to the Champion tank wash marbles of the 90's From the restored marblealan site: "Around 1994, Champion Agate produced a style of swirl that has become highly collectible and which for the most part is very rare. Considering the recent vintage of the marble, certain color combinations have fetched nearly $100 for a single marble! Their rarity owes to two factors. First, they were made in very limited numbers and never distributed to the general public. Second, they were made of a glass that easily fractures and therefore mint examples are hard to obtain. These swirls have been alternately called "Special Run" or "Furnace" marbles. They all possess a transparent base with opaque to transparent swirls, usually of several different colors. Sometimes the colors are highlighted with other colors and the effect is dazzling. The story goes that Champion Agate's glass furnaces were scraped, and the resulting residue was made into these marbles. Unfortunately, as noted, the glass tends to fracture, and examples with no fractures are rare." David

damnitman thanks Craig

Fantastic Job!! David

Looks like a Peltier to me. David

Damnitman Few know how much work those individual auctions are! Much less over 100. Well Done " Well, if Fortune be a woman, she's a good wench for this gear." (WS)

From One we came as One we return carry on

No time for pics right now. Winnie the topic opener and yours are copys of some I have, probably 100 or more - 5 or 6 differant lots all out of Argentina. No idea on manufacturer but they match nothing else I've found. I think Argentina. David will get some pics when I can.

Rylee, I have listed a Atmosphere bag if interested David http://www.ebay.com/...984.m1555.l2649 My Ebay Listings, thanks for Looking http://www.ebay.com/sch/marbleus1/m.html?item=230753025932&sspagename=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649&_trksid=p4340.l2562

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I mentioned to you in the vacor thread you started I would drop you some in the mail. I had your address because I had sold you the marble box. I have hundreds. just a starter collection. take care, david marbleus1

These we're left for Alan in my ebay feedback. my thoughts are with you Alan & family - handmade-vintage-swirls Alan was always the encyclopedia of marbles for everyone – bjmarble Best regards, Alan. - hjp71 Best money I ever spent. A very small token for past kindness.Peace - Collectorjred Best of luck to Alan... Hang in there, please... - migbar49 Wish I could do more. My best regards to the best EBay ever saw or likely to see - grandpamarble a tribute to a giant in the world of those who love marbles. – experiencelavender Please convey our best wishes and prayers to Alan-- fine, noble human being. - kocart1 Thank you Alan for all of your support over the years. – jamesallowayartglass Alan's expertise in the marble world is 2nd to none! Please send Alan my wishes. - 007jpt THANK YOU ALAN BASINET.... - zensum

That is some more checker Board. Thanks for the refresher Gentleman. and Mis Steph. Is it cardboard? or mite be a market for handmade remake, seems more marbles survived than Boards. thanks, david edit to Greg below: its already on bay