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LOL ... yup!
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I think it was Brian Graham who tried through different sources from mine to come up with any evidence to back up Pink's claims about his collegiate and naval accomplishments. The result was that this looks like more of Pink's falsified bio. Also, Pink's birth year kept moving forward in various recountings to the census and in articles. He was born in the 1890's, but he kept shaving a year or two at a time off his age as the decades passed. A "funny" coincidence is that back when I was looking into these things, I traced the Rosenthal family and their industries through many decades, and one of the brothers who headed the Rosenthal companies had a son whose actual bio resembled the one that Pink appears to have made up. Beyond the hard facts that we are able to establish, which are many, I have my own theories. I suspect that a 30-something-year-old Pink was more than a little insecure about the Rosenthal dynasty and that the insecurity fed both his ambition and his need to blot the Rosenthals out of his resume as he went on after the embarrassment of Rosenthal's lawsuit against him. But what this has to do with a small red and yellow patch? Nothing other that my musings about how marbles made at a Pink-affiliated factory in the early 30's would be reasonable marbles to find in Rosenthal packaging since that seemed to me like it would have been the point for Pink and/or Rosenthal to be affiliating themselves with such a factory during that time period.
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Ron, I found some tidbits that I compiled years ago. I find Berry Pink fascinating. In 1930, the census said he was an executive for a rubber mill. That would have been Morris Rosenthal's rubber mill. That double compartment bag which Pink invented -- the Rosenthal company owned the patent. That patent was filed in 1931. A Playthings trade magazine from November 1932 features Rosenthal and says Berry Pink is their sales manager. Then Pink had the falling out with Rosenthal and he quickly invented a whole new biography. For example, his entry in the 1939 edition of Who's Who in American Jewry says he was in the U.S. Intelligence Department during those years. Then according to his new biography, he left the Intelligence Department in 1933 and starting making marbles and reflectors in 1934. That's quite the transition ... or would be if that's what really happened. I know that he worked for Rosenthal. And I give credit to Rosenthal for giving Pink the opportunity to network with marble makers, leading to the ambitious Pink's opportunity to eventually become the Marble King.
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On this little point, I feel 100% confident that he was. Seems I knew his job title there once upon a time. Now I have to go digging.
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Welcome. Nice mix there. A lot of vintage. A little modern.
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I think that is a fantasy label. [Edit: maybe fantasy isn't the right word, but I think it's modern and someone artificially aged the staples] I'm with Master on the beautiful original marble.
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Ron, it's on the first page of this thread. Back in 2014 you wrote that, "In 1932 there were legal problems and Alley sold out to the broker either Berry Pink or more likely Morris Rosenthal. In 1931 Berry Pink had suggested that Rosenthal acuire the Alley business. In 1932 the company is listed as incorporated with Berry Pink as treasure and purchasing agent and Russell U. Adams as general manager."
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Looking forward to learning more about your grandfather.
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Welcome! Everything looks good to me.
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They mostly look like Marble King to me. The bottom middle has me wondering. Top left is a MK Rainbow Red. Bottom left is a MK Rainbow. I'm pretty sure MK on the right, but of course the kind which gets confused with Vitro All Reds. I think the top middle would be a somewhat newer MK, possiby straddling the line between vintage and modern. Back to the bottom middle? I might go Akro on that.
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Pretty sure not Master, though Master cat's eyes can get weird. The texture of the blue seems softer here. With these views, I think it could possibly be a Vitro cat's eye.
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I can agree with possible foreign on the top right and Master on the rest. The texture of the blue looks possibly modern. It might be helpful to see the blue on its own, maybe against a white background.
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Bottom left could be Akro. I _think_ Vitro on the rest.
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Hi Ray. Good to see you for whatever reason. Best of luck in selling your amazing collection.
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Alley and Champion are both candidates with shades of purple.
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A cool lady shared this on Facebook. I thought she was a member here, but now I'm not finding her ID, so I can't tag her with a high five. It was great to see this. Tahlequah is a big part of my family history, but this marble history is new to me.
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Need video. 😄
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There are some non-uranium reactions to UV light. Red/orange glow does occur. I would attribute Rick's red and oranges to some non-uranium chemical such as manganese. But have seen people present marbles as reacting to UV, when they weren't glowing but just sort of had an interesting look to them because it was blacklight not daylight which was shining on them. That's what I thought was meant by reflection verses reaction. Sorry, I can't track down the example I was thinking of most recently -- it was someone who said that each and every one of his Jabos in some large group reacted to UV. The photo he showed after that was just a normal Jabo distribution of glow. Some reacting. Most not. But the new collector thought there was reaction in all.
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Facebook marble prices are making me crazy!
Steph replied to Steph's topic in General Marble & Glass Chat
And a lot of these newbies not letting it be known that they're guessing. So one newbie gets what looks like a decisive answer and enthusiastically thanks the person ... and the answer is wrong. In some groups you can count on at least a midlevel person jumping in to offer a different opinion. In some groups the wrong answers just hang there unchallenged. I don't know how people feel so comfortable answering so decisively! I tried it out over in your Pelt patches thread and was like one for four on what I thought was a gimme. I will continue my dithering ways. -
Some of MIke's patch pictures have disappeared from the site and of course none of the other pictures I came across have that shade of blue with the yellow, so I'll quit trying to see Pelt there. And it has eyelashes, so that nudges one over to the Akro side also. Still mystified, but not fighting against Akro.