Steph

Could be accidental oxblood as a byproduct of the green glass colorant.

This is compelling. If you don't remember Vitros in Imperial packaging, that means a lot. Yet my memory is so vivid on this. A puzzle.

Size can help a lot with some marble types. With the very large and very small, the size can quickly narrow down the number of likely manufacturers.

I think I'm seeing a Japanese transitional on this one. From the early 1900's. It's like an American slag but is distinctive enough that we can tell it is Japanese. I would actually like to see a couple more views to make sure it is handgathered as I expect it is. But the glass texture and color are making me pretty confident about my guess.

^^ some nice vintage marbles there. Yet, I still lean toward the green one being a modern marble. I'd guess that it was included in the mix because that's what most people would do -- put all their pretty marbles together in their one special marble place.

^^ that's different and special because the marbles do come in the packaging. They're exceptional and it's reasonable for them to be identified in an exceptional way, such as Imperial Vacors or Vacor Imperials. But if we call just any loose generic Vacor an "Imperial Vacor" ... well, that doesn't make sense to me.

My argument is basically that if the maker of the marbles is well-known we shouldn't call them Imperial. At least not if we find them loose, without being in an Imperial pacakge. Most of the marbles that we are calling Imperial probably didn't even have the Imperial company's help getting to their destination. But we call them Imperial because that's one well-known distributor's name that it's handy to use because we don't know who actually made the marbles. So when we do know who made the marbles -- whether Vitro or Marble King or Vacor -- we call the marbles by the manufacturer's name and then comment on how cool it is that we can find them in Imperial packaging as well as in the better known avenues of distribution. At least that's the custom I expect. Expanding the Imperial name to cover a plurality of modern Asian marbles was already a stretch. To now extend the name Imperial to Vacor with or without Imperial packaging attached ... this seems to me to be an unfortunate extension of a name which was already a misnomer. But beyond that argument, I have a person who just doesn't believe me that Vitros were ever in Imperial packaging at all, so that's my first step here.

I think Imperial. A modern Asian marble. Possibly made in the 2000's. Possibly a little earlier.

Thanks, yeah, that's where I got the reminder about MK. Shouldn't be so hard to find pix, but if I have them myself then I'm probably going to have to hunt up my DVD drive and struggle with the sluggish searches through my back-up disks.

I'm trying to remember where I would have seen the Vitro marbles in the Imperial packaging, so I can figure out what search terms to get to the picture. I'm surprised by what a big blank I'm drawing in my search attempts.

P.s., I have just read that they also had Marble Kings in Imperial packaging. So, either picture would do. Vitros or Marble Kings.

I know I've seen Imperial packaging with Vitros. Someone on facebook isn't taking my word for it though. Apparently Vacors are being called Imperials by some people with the justification that Imperial did sell some marbles from Mexico. I pointed out that Imperial also sold marbles from Vitro and we don't call Vitros Imperials. So, anyway, the guy says he doesn't believe me about the Vitros in Imperial packaging. I don't have a lot of time to do the digging through old threads and image folders today so I thought I'd throw the question out to the group. I'm pretty darn sure that I'm correct, but I have to go up to my attic now and organize my marbles. I have a couple of promises to keep and I need to get on it.

I thought that's how the thread would go!

I want it to be Peltier because of the patch shape but it might turn out to be Akro. Yes, I should know, but no I can't remember and I'm not seeing good examples in my quick image search.

I'm with the Pelts on #2. Looking like a wild PPP to me.

I don't know what years. After 1991. That's all I know. Josh, what dates do you have for Jabo bag headers? @Nantucketdink

The white has a bit of a non-American look, but the overall marble looks vintage. I am not thinking Vacor.

Looks like a Jabo Classic. Of course, it being there with you in the Netherlands makes me wonder how you would get an unidentified Jabo. What marbles did you find it with?

This 'un ... Christensen Agate 1-13 (marbleconnection.com)

^^ that's pretty much what I was thinking but I just didn't want to say CAC aloud. Wanted someone more knowledgeable to say it. And there you are.

Sitting there with those vintage marbles, it looks like it belongs. I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that it was Jabo.

Ooooooooohhhhhhhhh

When you're scrolling past something on facebook and you see a picture and you wonder what kind of marble it is -- and it's something like a blueberry or the AT&T logo? Or in this case, it was "oh that cullet looks interesting, let me scroll back up and check it out." This is the cullet in question.

Not getting a clear enough idea of the structure. Am seeing Pelt and Akro possibilities.

I think the first might be Asian.