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1939 I can't remember anyone else calling their mibs Royals right now, so I'll say Akro here.
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I have some odd bits and pieces for this. (lol, I guess I should put some of the standard info in here also. someday) June 27, 1870 German Flats, Herkimer, New York Jennie Levi, age 24, Housekeeper Boarder list includes: James Fredericks, 26, Blacksmith, from Denmark Martin Fredericks, 21, also from Denmark, "works at the agl works" (Agricultural Works) Coincidence? Error? New bit of information? Is this our Martin? I guess it is possible that the census taker was careless with Martin's last name. He seems to only have filled in part of the information for people with parents who weren't citizens. Or perhaps there was a misunderstanding due to language. June 11, 1880 Buffalo, Erie county, New York 137 16th St. Fred Christensen, age 32, Foundry worker Wife Jennie, 34 Children: Carrie, 7 (Carrie may also have been known as Cathrine) Helena, 5 Bessie, 3 (Bessie seems to be lost to history, possibly confused with Jessie in later accounts) Charles, 1 1890 The Drop Hammer Forging Company is incorporated in Akron. Martin is "superintendent". 1898 - 1899 Martin's patents place him in Cleveland. 1898 - 1899, War with Spain A 20-year-old Charles F. Christensen was a private in the Eighth Regiment Ohio Volunteer Infantry, Company B, Akron June 11, 1900 Akron, Summit, Ohio 725 East Exchange Martin F. Christenson, Age 50, born March 1850 (inaccurate), Machinist, immigrated 1862, in U.S. 58 years, Naturalized. (questions) Jennie D. , 50, born April 1850 (inaccurate), married 28 years, 5 children, 4 still living Charles F., 21, born October 1878 (this appears correct), at school Jessie M., 17, born May 1873, at school April 26, 1910 Akron, Summit, Ohio Street address 457. [note: The large Baughman family lives at 465.] Marcus F. Christensen, Age 61, immigrated 1867 (some question), manufacturer of glass marbles Jennie, 63, married 37 years, 5 children, 4 still living Charles, 30 (inaccurate), manufacturer of glass marbles Oct. 10, 1915 Martin Christensen dies. Sept. 12, 1918 Charles Fredrick Christansen (question about last few letters in Christansen, but not about the "a") Born: Oct. 27, 1878 Nearest relative: Nellie M. Christansen Residence: 453 E. Exchange, Akron, Summit, Ohio Employment: Manufacturer, M. F. Christensan & Son Co., 455 E. Exchange Short, stout, brown hair, brown eyes Jan. 2, 1920 Akron, Summit, Ohio 453 Exhange St. Chas. F. Christensen, Age 40 (inaccurate), Mfg, Glass Wife: Nellie, 34 Daughter: Jacquelin, 4 and 3/12, born in Ohio (question) 457 Exchange St. Head: Jennie D. Christensen, Age 73 Maid: Galdine Aubin, 32 Dec. 25, 1922 Charles dies in Akron. 12th, 1930 Akron, Summit, Ohio 453 Exchange The household had a radio set. Nellie Christensen, head, age 45, widow Daughter: Jacquelin, 14, born in South Carolina (question) Brother: Carl Baughman, 38, single, Automobile salesman Sister: Elizabeth Dietz, 25, divorced Nephew: Richard Dietz, 6 Lodger: Paul Kistler, 28, widower, Doughnut Company Proprietor
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to Ron. And a belated LOL to Bob. I have a whole lot of different reactions to the hyperbole in the old ads. Most of the time I find them charming. Sometimes I laugh out loud. Sometimes I get caught up in trying to figure out if it really was an exaggeration or just how much of an exaggeration it was. That's what happened to me with that particular box. 11 marbles for ten cents sounds like a lot of money! ... you know, considering it was 83 years ago. But I don't know enough about costs in the 20's. Maybe 10 cents was perfectly in line with the cost of manufacturing especially considering quality of the marbles. Anyway ... I'm bumping now coz I plan to add a couple of ads. brb.
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Update: All of the mesh bags have been seen in modern times, at least one each. VERY hard to find.
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1936 Sept. 1936 -- Pop-Eye Packages: If I had to guess the marbles from the photos, the sheen on the darkest ribbons would lead me to guess at least some oxbloods in the 10 cent box.
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1935 Jan. 1935 -- Visi Paks Live and in color: (click!)
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1934 Jan. 1934 -- "the new Akro Carnelian": (click to enlarge) Are these Akro? (click to enlarge) The patent: (click)
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After 1932? Possibly 1934 or later? When was the "new" Akro carnelian actually new? (click links below the thumbnails for larger images - might need to doubleclick for full size) . . . . http://i119.photobuc...Catalog1of4.jpg http://i119.photobuc...Catalog2of4.jpg http://i119.photobuc...Catalog3of4.jpg http://i119.photobuc...Catalog4of4.jpg In reference to a recent prize name discusion, at this point Akro definitely had white-based Prize Names, but the ad company wouldn't necessarily have known it. There was an ad maybe from around this time which had the color combos dropped, but that was one where there were pix of the prize names. Pix which didn't match the description in the ad. The proofreader would have flagged that and finally the outdated text was cut. (that's my theory) Close up of one of the more unusual parts of the ad: I recently learned that all of these bags have been seen in modern times. The only ones I've seen pix of are Hotshots. It has been suggested that the Liberty bags were related to the advertisement bag at the bottom of this pic. (click link for larger image) http://i119.photobuc...zardMonarch.jpg
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1932, Glassies Size Update I sorta hope this is a clue to dating ads which mention No. 2 glassies. Hope it means they would have come after February of 1932, but there's some conflicting info still being worked out in one of those other ads with No. 2 glassies. It's at least remotely possible that Akro might have sent out a letter for completely different reasons. It's remotely possible that they said they were getting requests for an unadvertised item, when in fact they were failing to get requests for an advertised item, so they wanted to pump up interest. (Just brainstoming while I wait for word on some of those inconsistencies which seem to place at least one catalog with #2 glassies in the year 1931.)
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I have some material for this also. As with the MFC thread, some odd bits now, but I'll try to add the normal bits also someday. April 16, 1882 Lawrence Everett Alley is born in Kentucky. April 22, 1910 He is a coach painter in Huntington, W. Va. (Census) 1917 L. E. Alley is Vice President, General Manager and Purchasing Agent of the Kingwood Glass Co., Kingwood, W. Va. (National Glass Budget Directory) Sept. 12, 1918 He is a glass blower at the Western Glass Co. in St. Marys, W. Va. (WWI Registration) April 27, 1942 WWII Registration. Sort of interesting description. But no extra marble info.
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1931, Sunset Agates Looks like that could be this box. The panel the ad came from because it's charming: (click to enlarge) They were offered as a prize to the 4th place scorer in Madison, WI's marble tournament. The first place winner was to receive a new suit of clothes, dress shoes, a free pressing of a suit, and the trip to Chicago for the regional competition. But in the end, the hardware store gave both boys a box of marbles and a Cornelian shooter. A couple of the related articles. (click to enlarge0 . . . Romanzo may have gone on to play bush league ball -- not certain, but there was a "hurler" by the same name, of the appropriate age a few years later. (Can't jump to conclusions. Many Schneiders from different families settled in the area, including my great-great-grandparents. Many cousins and even unrelated people had identical names.)
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Early 1930's 1931 Here is an ad George Sourlis sent from the December 1931 Playthings Magazine. Check here for some nice Acme Realer pix
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Late 1920's is 1929 the year of the pivotal lawsuit Akro filed against Peltier?
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1920-something, Marble production begins
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Might as well start one. :-) Company history: 1886 to present (last I heard) Peltier Glass Company website Victor J. Peltier bio page at Rootsweb
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Indeed he does. :-)
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Early 1930's, Catalogs and other circulars of uncertain age [coming soon] lol - "coming soon". How long have I been saying that? Here's one of the pages I keep planning to incorporate. I can't seem to get them all together at once. So I'll just start here: I have "1930ish" on these photos from Dani. I have bigger copies somewhere. .... Here's one example of why they're of such uncertain age! WARNING: it's complicated. I'm still working on a better way to say it. It will likely become easier, or unnecessary, as I include more examples. This illustration of the No. 32 and No. 64 display cartons was recycled into multiple brochures. This particular example came from the scan Dani posted. http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/Akro/DisplayCartons_Dani-1.jpg. In Dani's version, the descriptions of the contents do not match the illustrations. The original descriptions might actually have been the ones shown in the catalog on p. 17 of American Machine-Made Marbles. Page three of the catalog. Here are the contents from that page: No. 32: No. 64: If you are aware of Moss Agates once having been a swirled type of marble, you might recognize them through the windows in the cartons. These are the kind which have "exquisite patterns", as described in some ads. They include the Ades and the Blue Eggyolks. Here is a sample box of that sort of Moss Agate, with salesman's price label affixed. (click to enlarge) (click the links below the thumbnails for the larger copies) http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/Akro/th_MVC-018S.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/Akro/MVC-018S.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/Akro/th_MVC-019S.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/Akro/MVC-019S.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/Akro/th_MVC-020S.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/Akro/MVC-020S.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/Akro/th_MVC-021S.jpg http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/Akro/MVC-021S.jpg In post #10 here, Intriguing Akro Box, Clyde describes another box like this. HOWEVER, though the contents listed on page three of the catalog in AMMM match the illustration on that page, there are several inconsistences between that page and the others. I won't try to be more specific at the moment because if you don't have the catalog in front of you, the comparison would shoot 18 light years past "complicated". And if you do have the catalog in front of you, then you might want to try to sort the consistencies out yourself.
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Copyright 1931, The Akro Kings game There is also Click. What year was that? Sliding this in: 1931, Big Time Marbles Comic/Ads in Boy's Life Magazine. Old-fashioned looking cartoon boys - I think the same cartoon boys used on the Ringer Marble Sets
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Sometime in 1930, and I'll have to guess toward the end of the year. This is from a reproduction of a 1930-1931 catalog, image sent by George Sourlis. It places Akro's original Tri-color agates in 1930 (Note, the original tri-color agates were corkscrews, i.e., the mibs we call "specials" today). And it calls 'em Rainbow! (click to enlarge) The marbles: Cover: Dec. 1930 On p. 11 of The Complete Line of The Akro Agate Co. (1992), the Hardy's show an ad for "this new Akro Agate game called CLICK". Also mentioned in the ad is a "new Akro Agate Prize Contest". (still waiting to hear the outcome on the old one!) Also mentioned are "three new Akro Agate assortments with marble bags". Click game, from a Block auction. (click to enlarge)
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The 1930's Don't know the year on this, but it's a classic. Likely after Feb. 15, 1932 considering the size on the Glassies. See later post. (click to enlarge) I have some close-ups to add at a later date.