Steph

What would snotties have looked like in 1914? Any ideas? (click to enlarge)

Oxblood as a color is the color of ox blood. Sometimes wet ox blood. Sometimes dry. To widen that meaning -- as a color -- is anyone's prerogative, and it is anyone's prerogative not to adopt the expanded definition. I know that I am more of a purist than most so I shall proceed with caution in that area. I see what appears to be an effort to expand the definition by fiat instead of in an organic way and I resist that. Oxblood is an archaic term. I choose to appreciate it in its traditional contexts, as far as I understand them. My understanding of that is still in progress.

By the way, it turns out that at least some of the copper-based glass called oxblood in the 1800's and early 1900's wasn't opaque. This isn't any reason to throw out all our past definitions, but it's interesting all the same. Glass chemists of the day treated the subject in a scientific way. Artisans and art lovers studied it also. Definitely no reason to haggle about the subject before we study in depth what the people who gave us the word knew.

I do not know who said that. It was not I.

In this discussion, a certain amount of precision about the context would be a good idea. Otherwise we could easily blur the terms until they are practically meaningless. Oxblood as a color will be dark red. Oxblood as a copper-based reddish glass might be generalized to other shades in a modern discussion. However, one thing I learned from my reading is that the people who regularly used the term oxblood in the 1800's and early 1900's would have known the literal color of oxblood. Other shades had other names. Humans lived in multi-species communities. Animals were their servants and direct food sources. People were quite intimate with facts about their animals, down to the level of knowing different animals had different shades of blood.

Yellow swirls in clear make me think of Champ (or vacor, tho' that's not really on my mind here). I haven't really spent much time thinking about yellow tho' so I don't know who else might've done it. In particular I don't know if that is a CAC option.

Those would be the six-vane type I don't like to get too specific with. I'd just guess Asia in general. And I'd guess "after 1970", again without wanting to be commit further.

I really can't tell how many separate varieties are in the updated pic. I don't see the ketchup and mustard. And the top right one looks sort of like the far left one.

Right ... there have been additions to the basic set of five. Summary of the types I've seen names for: the one known simply as "Citrus", where the green is transparent a variant of #1 where the green is opaque, also called "Citrus" I think the Liberty aka Patriot the Lemon-Plum aka Rebel, if i understand correctly the Christmas Tree the Ketchup and Mustard (w/ mayo) (which Sami questioned as possibly not belonging to the group) the Blueberry Is the Citrus Angel a different type? Some of the names in that list are from Mr. Dorkmo's classic pic: (click to enlarge) There are 7 mibs here in Mr. Dorkmo's updated pic. Is the bottom left a different type from the far right? a hybrid? does it have a name? (click to enlarge)

This is supposed to be a 1960 ad, from ebay. The seller assured me the year was correct and the ad style fits that time but the marbles made me do a double take. Do you think spotted mibs like that existed then? Or is this an artist's rendering of imagined marbles and only a coincidence that they look so much marbles made decades later? (click to enlarge)

Seems like a good time to mention the Land of Marbles article archive. http://www.landofmarbles.com/archive/index.php

April 17, 1883 A. W. Roberts' classic, "Marbles and Where They Come From", published in Harper's Young People. That issue is online. Several versions can be found at archive.org: http://www.archive.org/details/harpersyoungpeop00newy1883. The text can be found here. The text was used and reused in newspapers and maybe other publications, with various amounts of editing. One example is this next one, in a New Zealand paper .... November 12, 1898 From the Waimate Daily Advertiser: The table of contents for the issue The article

Took me a couple of readings to figure this out but once I did :icon_lmao:

"about 20 years" was my first vague thought but then I remembered what year this is, and realized that would put cosmic rainbos in Anacortes. And I don't remember ever hearing that connection before.

... thanks for the mib!

My newest acquisition might be called lavender or pink. It's got a nice cork action. That wouldn't be too remarkable. But I think the ground pontil is. Not what one would expect on what looks like an Asian transitional. (click to enlarge)

Are the swirls yellow ribbons in a clear base? Or white ribbons in a clear base? on my monitor it looks like yellow in clear, which would be a significant difference from the electric yellow slag. No specific thoughts about maker from me at the moment. This was my subtle attempt at a helpful bump. lol

Ditto.

That seems like a good ball park guess. There might be more specific info to be gleaned from the header, perhaps from subtle details. Another case where I have so much information that I think I might be able to put my hands on a specific answer but I'd have to be in the zone to sort it out. But short answer is with that age warning, yeah, 30 years sounds about right. I know someone to ask ... might do that ... sometime.

I think all 100 could still be around, mostly in private collections I presume. (Where did you find yours?) They're new enough, and I imagine that anyone lucky enough to get one appreciated it.

Rare indeed. My copy is borrowed. I need to return it soon but it's going to be tough to let go. I want to read it again before I do. It's a page turner.

LOL ... now we have to define "vintage" vs. "modern"! I love those Bos. They always make me smile.

Pelt seems more likely to me on the first mib and at least some of the others. I think the first could be borderline NLR. There might be better photo comparisons to make, perhaps using red/white/blue mibs, but this is what yours reminds me of ... somewhere between these two sets: The mibs are all Carole's, but two used to be mine. :-)

Gotta love lavender.

So how are they made? Does anyone know the particulars? I guess I have been thoroughly misled by the "bullet mold" name. It makes less and less sense the more I think about the seams. The blue spot looks a tad smeared at the seam in this view but mostly the frit ends abruptly. How did it get chopped off like that? Carole, it would still be cool to see the part which looks like a pontil.