Steph

He is such an enigma. Seems as if you'd need an eye witness account to know what's true about him and then you still might not be sure. His own company gets weird in their various accounts about him -- as if they don't even know what to say. I'm still having trouble with the part in AMMM where it says "a significant development came in 1963 when Roger Howdyshell [and others] bought Marble King ..." without mentioning that Pink had died in 1962. That wasn't significant .... Eneeeway ... there is still some more old material I've read about and hope to get my hands on sometime. It should be fun. Here are some signs of him getting busy with promotion. If you click on them you'll get larger copies, with the source info. 1938 1939 1940

If they were sold by Marble King, would that be a yes for "packaged by Marble King"? (Alley poly bags looking very much like that are pictured in Marble King ads in the 50's)

The cloud I presume: (articles from Charleston, WV paper)

Did everyone else (except me until today) know that the drawing of the boy as well as the Champion Marbles name came from a Pelt box? Peltier No. 16

Affirmative!

You can practically reach out and touch the marbles.

How sweet is this?! . . Vitro's All Red Line from 1938.

That totally explains it. (very cool pieces)

The big reveal ...

We missed flower arranging ...

I have to say you nailed it Al. I already figured you had but this nails that you nailed it. Ad from Greeley Colorado, 1958:

It is said that the white we see on type 4 Tiger Eyes is veneered onto a white base. Less expensive glass could be used for the base that way and the kids still got a nice white on the surface. Bubba's: Here's an example of the veneering on early Rainbows (Jeff Hale's): I've presumed that the white was also veneered for, say, the blue and white rainbows. The last thing I know about Marble King veneering is that Roger Howdyshell said they stopped doing it in 1965. I was under the impression that none of the following marbles were done by the process known as veneering. There are colored patches but were they "veneered" according to 1950's marbles manufacturers' definition of the term? (click to enlarge)

I have some Alley halves I can add when I get my camera back online. I won't feel bad if someone else posts Alleys first though.

Here are some Pelt halves of Carole's. She showed the other sides over here: Pelt Pieces A sample: And here are 3 bennies and a jasper Galen smashed for the cause. Close-ups here: What Do Bennies Look Like Inside?

Maybe I'm wrong. Mine glows brightly. It is an Alley shade. It's darker in hand than in the photo. But it is not as dark as the right hand side of these two candidates for pistachio which I asked about in another thread. Most of the seasoned collectors who voted specifically did vote for the right hand side and I'llhavethat1 voted for even darker. Plus, the darkness of the ribbons was stressed and my ribbons obviously aren't dark. I think I got fixed on the idea that mine was in the ballpark and I didn't really register who was stressing the darker shades. Okay, I will stop calling it a pistachio. It's still an Alley though!

I've seen patterns I would call the "same" in at least 4 companies, and at least "similar" in still others. The "same" ones which I have provenance for are Alley, Champion, Cairo and Jabo.

I forgive you.

It's been IDed as a Jabo before, but so has the Alley. I posted them together the first time. That's when I first heard the immortal phrase, "Buttcracks don't lie". Then I posted the pistachio in a different thread and got a Cairo ID because of the little eye in back. It is an Alley though. Slam dunk. The dug Pennsboros Ron sent nailed it solidly. I think this one is a Cairo though. Two days ago I was leaning uncertainly toward Champion. Then last night I saw something last night in a pic from Alan's site which made me think "maybe Cairo". So that pointed me to the Cairo section of AMMM and got me looking closer than I had before. Got me looking closely into the case on p. 57. And I think I might see a match for my marble. The pic is dark, and the marbles are small, so it doesn't stand out. But I think it could be a match. Even if that particular one isn't a match, it has strong similarities. I'm seeing more similarities in the Cairos than I've seen in anywhere else. Here is the Cairo I saw last night. It came from Alan's old site. The colors don't seem to blend as much in mine as they do here but I think the shades are similar. I still don't know where mine is, so I can't doublecheck, but I think it's very close. If you have AMMM and want to check that case on p. 57, the marble which I think looks like mine is about one-third of the way from the right edge and a little more than half of the way from the top.

I don't think I got it yet. lol Here are some more Cairo Novelty of varying degrees of crackiness. Dug examples from Alan's old site. The last one may be the least buttcracky but it's the most cheeky!

Doesn't ring a bell. Couldn't say for sure. There were various pay-per-view sites I landed on and promptly forgot about before I finally decided I had to had to had to see something from a couple of them. I don't recall if any were particularly for ads or for magazines.

But seriously, there have been a few posts on innards. If nothing else we could gather some of the examples from those locations and of course more could be added.

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Thanks Al. :-) Bill, on the one hand, it sure is nice to be able to plug in keywords and jump relatively quickly to any number of papers. On the other hand, I can't easily "browse" any of these papers online. You might find things which would slip through my best targetted searches. Stuff hidden in ads. Surprising marble-connected topics. Photographs.

What part don't you see, the Alley or the pistachio? The marble on the left is a Pennsboro Alley. If you can't detect the pistachio shade then my camera washed even more color out than I thought.

Online archives. Some I stumbled upon. Some I had to get creative with keywords in order to find. Some were free. Some I paid to see.