Steph

Happy Birthday Bill!

Some nice detail here. (click to enlarge) From All About Marbles, 1926, published by the Akro Agate Co.

Here's another great one someone gave me a lead on. Maybe it should have gone in the handmades thread. A list of Lion Coffee Premiums dated 1897, with some sweet marbles. A stone agate, 2 latts, 2 bennies and a china. (click to enlarge) Here's some background on Lion Coffee advertising, The Lion Coffee Saga. Notice that the Woolson Spice Co. had been well known for its premiums for some years, but 1896 is given as the year the company launched an advertising campaign of epic proportions.

I got ideas, and boxes full of materials to use for them ... LOL ... Gotta admire people who DO IT! I missed the figure too until Sue commented on it. That's wild. Mary, your bear is amazing!

So, is the sulphide a rescued marble, or was it made from scratch?

I didn't see this when you posted it. Not sure I see it now.

Love the ad.

(click to enlarge .. maybe doubleclick to get fullsize)

gorgeous! And what fun it would be deciding which four of each run to include !

Hey there, Rosalie. :-) Unfortunately I think we're at the point where nothing I posted would be thought to resemble a furnace swirl. I suspect I could even post a furnace swirl but call it a Jabo and someone would say "that doesn't look anything like a Champ". (plus, I can't upload pix at the moment. )

I figured that was coming. I love pancakes!

I now realize size is not an option (edit: obstacle). That was staring in my face but I didn't notice. I think Randy's is a larger one, by the way. He posted it in a group shot as well as the individual pix. And yeah, I was mostly referring to the individuals which crossover, with some of the Jabo families having a higher likelihood of such individuals than other families. Some colors are closer too than the Charleston, but those don't get as many pix taken. The cold rolly and other error Jabos don't get as many pix either. That's where some of the nearer matches are going to be found. So I'd have to pull the nearer matches from my cache and then take care of that pesky camera problem.

Waiting for the punchline ,,,

That is one good point, Sue. The next good point is that Kevin is being rude and presumptuous and did I mention rude? And here's one which might also be considered a good point, though I shouldn't have to say it, since there is more than one way to acquire knowledge -- I own furnace mibs. I am sooooooooooooooo tired of the attitudes of the people who seem to expect a notarized affidavit of how many marbles I own before they will accord me as much respect as, say, what Kevin expected in his 2nd week of collecting marbles. And now for someone so new to jump on that bandwagon ... that bandwagon with the broken axle which allows people to make false assumptions about me and use their assumptions to justify jerky behavior .... Excuse me ... I need to go vent quietly in another room .....

LOL, yes some do! And not just like Randy's. But that's the one which made me do a double take and realize I could slip some into a furnace photo and maybe not be called on it. LOL Well, back to Jaboland .....

Whoops! sorry to kill the thread, but they are similar! Okay, I'm moving over to Jaboland now. :icon_lmao:

Take this Champ of Randy's again: I need to get my camera back online or watch the Jabo auctions on ebay for some good photos which might capture what I see in mine but this pic of Windy's gives an idea of how close the motion can be. Some of mine are even better than this. Tighter. with super hooks. and yeah, some with annealing fractures. :glare: (oh well -- i'll deal with it!)

I think the "unique movement" is part of what I'm talking about Sue, when I compare the last dances to the furnace swirls. Some of mine match it dead on. That movement is what is going to make some of the new ones go into Wissmach collections if folks aren't careful to keep them separate and especially to learn the color combos.

I still think some of the most recent jabo run look uncannily close to furnace swirls. I wouldn't be surprised to see them ending up in wissmach-centric collections someday, unless at 3/4" give or take they're too large to confuse with champs. ?? Greg, I was thinking about a version of your question last night as I continued sorting my Last Dances. As I looked at the really unusual ones, I felt I had been almost "wrong" for having been excited by the most vintage looking ones. As I went back and forth between the more furnace-y ones and the more luminescent, richly hued ones -- especially the purple and lutz combo on the translucent red-orange base -- I couldn't decide whether I'd like to have future runs try to capture a more vintage look or keep playing with unconventional glass types. When the new combos click just right, wow. And when they capture the vintage look, whether in vintage colors or new ... wow. The "wrong" feeling was accompanied by thoughts of John Denver. -- because of an interview he did later in life. He seemed to resent his fans who didn't seem to want to hear his new music. He was a creative person who kept expressing himself in music as he always had but fans mainly wanted to hear songs from the 70's. I was one of the fans who hadn't given his newer music a chance.

Happy Birthday Roger and Jeff!

Cool. Thanks. I wondered if that could possibly be Rosenthal but didn't see how.

Yup. Sue doesn't have dog in this race. She's a handmade collector who's trying to accentuate the positive because she knows how much the Jabos mean to some of us.

And in other news ... Berry Pink didn't become "Berry" until his teens or 20's. The 1900 census listed him as Beney and in 1910 his name was given as Benjaman. So if you want to search for records of his youth, perhaps try out variations on the name Benjamin. (edit: there is a suggestion in one genealogical source that Berry might have been short for "Beryl".) His apparent birthdate changed over the years too. One fairly certain thing is that he was a little older than his obituary indicated -- between 1 and 3 years. Not a big difference but possibly relevant to such things as military service. The 1900 census said he was born April 1898. But the same census said his brother Louis was born May 1896, yet Louis' military records say November. Nov. 10 on one form, Nov. 4 on another. (What's up with that?) Later censuses confuse matters further. The 1910 census implies he was born in 1898 or 1899. The 1920 census implies he was born in 1897, or maybe 1898 if his birthday was in January. The 1930 census implies he was born in 1899 or 1900. Then in 1933 he gave his birthday as Aug. 18, 1900 But by Dec. 1949, he'd lost 2 more years. He was only 47 then. Then in his obituary, he got those two years back. He died in 1962 and was 62. His brother Irwin had name changes also, and also had birthday irregularities. So did their mother. It was as if they were in witness protection and couldn't remember the details of their new identities. As far as employment, in 1920 Berry was a salesman for a silk company and in 1930 he was an executive for a rubber mill. At least that's what the census taker wrote down. And in 1930 it says he was a veteran but I can't make out which 'war or expedition' it says he served in. (edit: it appears to be WW, with a stray line added, and of course, WW is the one he was the right age for.) Will return to marble-related stuff in the next post. :-)

lol Sue. It is funny, isn't it. Pete made a parallel post over at LOM today. Musing about the possibility that machinemade collectors have not only come into their own but been there long enough that they are possibly feeling some of the things handmade collectors about their niches a decade or two ago.