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Here's a pic I have on file of another, less banana style
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Agreed.
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I don't know. I maybe found ten but I knew an area where they were more concentrated and focused on that for a while. They were closer to the surface. I don't think anyone found a large quantity, at least not that I know of. I searched that area until I got enough examples to suit me and then went back to the swirls. The area with these was also full of clearies and other cateyes that look to me like Heatons, and what they call Heaton Sulphides. Whether these are Heaton or Bogard isn't clear to me. I think Heaton is possible based on the fact that they are also found with the wider vanes more like MK cats, which is what Heaton made, but then you also find them in this banana cat style, which somewhat matches the green ones Jack reportedly dumped at the side of the loading dock because he couldn't sell them. But I don't recall finding one single marble that I could say was 100% for certain a Bogard in that area. The large number of industrial clearies found in that area and all closer to the surface might suggest Bogard. Down deeper in the Heaton swirls, there were plenty of similar looking clearies too, so I guess Heaton made plenty of those too. Heaton made a very few patch types as well, as evidenced by the digs and also found in packaging (I have some that match dug examples in Bogard labeled packaging containing apparent Heaton marbles). In this post on AAM you can see several different examples including this type we're discussing and another variation of the same marble but with orange replacing the mustard yellow. They are even harder to find. https://www.allaboutmarbles.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6761 Check out both pages if you want to see some related paperwork I have pertaining to Bogard and cateyes.
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Three more in this pic for reference
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Yep figure 8. A Japanese member on AAM did some extensive digging over where she lives to discover more about the Japanese marble makers and uncovered the maker for these I believe.
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The first sure does make you want to say CAC at a quick glance but I agree, it's off. Pic 2 shows where the stream is cut and sure enough, Vacor. It has the beachball stream with two red ribbons opposing each other and 2 blue opposing each other. Not sure on the second. Might be Vacor too like Ric said.
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This mustardy color combo, as far as I know, is exclusive to that one company too. I won't spoil it.
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I agree, JABO/new
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I think Peltier. Koko made some that color too. Different base though. I could be wrong.
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What size is it? I don't think it's MK. Looks like Kugler glass. Might be an odd DAS.
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I don't think "bionic clown" is a recognized pelt name. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Lots of names on ebay for marketing purposes.
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The ketchup and Mustard is a NLR pelt, older than a clown, which is more in the rainbo family. Also the typical K&M has a white base and the typical Clown has a dark base, nearly black. A Bionic Rainbo is like the above marbles but also added are other colors like green and can be shades of purple to pink. Possibly others as not all examples have been shown publicly. They usually seem to be a bit twisted up and pulled in pattern. They were not made in a swirl AFAIK. I've seen clowns from around 9/16" up to around an inch. I don't recall seeing any in the 3/4 to 7/8" range but they may have made them, I don't know. Hope that helps some until someone more familiar with them comments.
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Yeah, the names go in the weeds sometimes there. Alley "dragonfly"... https://www.ebay.com/itm/325916230352?hash=item4be21f02d0:g:VIsAAOSwTC9lb6HW
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Nice glass Schmoozer! Love the Wurlitzer!
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I agree with Peltier.
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The gar! Valerie caught that back when we first got married on a camping trip down on the banks of the Suwanee River. She had so much fun fighting it on light tackle that when she got it reeled in, she flipped the bail and let it back out again. It was so entangled in the braided line with his fine teeth that is was done by the time we got it cut loose, so she wanted to mount it. I did the taxidermy on it myself. Fun memories from that trip.
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I had this wall between my coat closet and kitchen that I never figured out what to do with. I figured it out. Thanks to Nola Morgan and Dave Akers, I had lots of these jars that Champion used to ship marbles and gems in. So I built this shelf with LED lights and a dimmer switch to display them on. Everything from Vacor to Alley here. Every jar has it's theme.
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I just happened to be going through some marble stuff and picked up up a small box of dug Cairos just now. I opened it and picked out 16 glow worms all 11/16" to 13/16" right off the bat. Who knows how many more there are. Not HTF. At least not in my collection. The one that went over $50 on ebay was not 11/16" though.
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Marbles from Cairo (Care-oh) over 5/8" are quite common. The glow worm has been a named Cairo for many years. Even listed as one at the West Virginia Marble Collector's Club website. It's not a HTF marble if you dug Cairo. Might be HTF if you're just trying to find one in the wild, but Cairos of any kind aren't all that common in the wild.
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Yep, I think it would be more likely that it came from Akro IMO, since so much material from Akro has been distributed around the collecting community. Unless it is known to have been dug elsewhere. The first piece looks more like true black but the second is dark dark blue. Once cullet has lost it's provenance, it is usually gone forever, unless it's a recognizable color or something else gives it away. I keep mine in marked boxes or I mark on the cullet where it was from with a sharpie marker in case sometime I'm gone and can't answer the question of where it came from.
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Lots of black and whites out there. Especially Akro.
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The origin of the cullet is unknown? If so, it may never be able to be attributed to a company.