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It do look like it could be hand-gathered. Glass from mixed in the pot blending together. Swirl appears to start at one end wrapping around it and cut at opposite. Bob B. had a small hoard that He'd sold off just before all the dug-up CAC's hit the light of day. He'd called them Gray Coats. This looks like it may be so. Yet, IDK were they blue and gray or? I have one from a guy who'd scraped some digging in Cambridge, where he lives or lived. I'll have to dig it up. Edit: That didn't take long. Mine appears to have very similar if not same colors although, no signs of being H-G and no tiny clear as seen in yours it's all blended with a few differed shades of gray and quite solid. So hard to see if there's blue as I'd thought, or lavender like yours, even in bright sunlight, but it sure looks like the same thing. My trusty 40x magnifying glass has been hiding from me for years, (lost). I'd need a good 'modern' camera to get better graphics and blow it up to be sure what the heck ways it's going with the gray tones. Perhaps somebody else has a CAC 'Gray-coat' to include another comparison.
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Seems you may be at the US patent site. Otherwise google patents is easy to use; Google Patents
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Yup, that's a "It happens' and for the smearing of red on one side and blue the other I'd doubt Peltier. But 'It Happens" can do that on anything so, not judging just doubting.
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I've been trying to ID this mib for a long time
Jeff54 replied to browncat73's topic in Marble I.D.'s
I use-to have a few quart, like, maybe 4, jars given to me of what this appears to be in your first top left photo. ; Circa 1996 Jabo-Vitro, made ,with a thin wispy, milky translucent in a nice transparent Cherry-red, clear and with or without a little bright transparent yellow. There's typically a dash of a bright, in contrast, yellow transparent in them that reflects out at the right angle or light source. I only kept 7 or 8 different examples for one reason or another. and literally, as they were coming up at Ebay, hard to sell for being newer plus, folks had not a clue siting as antique slags. And, I could hardly give them away. I'd have to find one where the yellow was bright enough, through an angle where clear let it come through, as the red didn't like letting the yellow stick out, and con kids into liking it enough to take 1 or some home. ð I just checked mine and I'd picked the best and different verity of the run.. Such as, one has no red or yellow but swirls really nice. Another is mostly red, clear with no yellow. The best of all is really hard to see that, some of the transparent yellow looks like is not but opaque-ish yellow. I cannot be absolutely sure it's not too. Of 100's it's the only one that strong, in the place it's at, in there, Doubt it's opaque-ish. . And one example that looks just about like yours, and mixing where, if yellow was wanting to be there, it changed by blending in. . There were variants that didn't stand out I didn't bother with, but many had the bright yellow transparent, like, randomly in front of the white. Yours's does not appear to have bright yellow, but the red looks to match and clear, what? Clear is not a danged color yet, yours does look a lot like mine. I also have a boulder from this run or the same red, but alias, no yellow nor clear to speak of, just that milky white and Cherry red. . ð Some did not swirl as much to give it tastier appearance as yours does, and whelp, duh, those that did which obviously wasn't many, I kept. Oh forgot, opalescence when lite through, like many other with similar white, yes. Also, 1 more thing: Jabo wasn't taking care back then and so, most of their stuff, could have tiny hits and chips right out of cooled production. Not all but enough to not get the Huggy's. -
Consider this Ann:, Is the Maroon stretching? I think not because it's the base or greater portion. Rather the Pale Green is doing its thing in the Maroon.
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Can't leave out, accordingly, the Formula for oxblood in toy marbles MFC acquired, came from Germany. I managed to recover this old photo of a Blue Oxblood. Oxblood, the color, is thousands of years old. From ceramics, glass, paint, clothing, you name it. In toy marbles, Germany's, being the first, I guess, IMO totally made the best. Perhaps for such nice colorants, temperatures, raw materials, whatever system to make their glass. Defined in Germany's History; 'All of their Hand Gathered Glass marbles are "Imitation Agate".' Credited too: Greiner, Vetter's Sohn. Just too bad this example has been played with, and old photo because, the Oxblood revels its potence with more clarity. Regardless, linage begins here:
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Whelp, sorry to say but, that photo could use higher graphics which may help to clarify, 'May'. However, as many Peltier bags tend to do is, have a bit of powder inside so, unless bag is opened then... I carefully positioned the two best better angles there so, probably not going to see more. Although I'd like to get better; I'm not opening the bag. ðĨīðĪ
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Whaaat? Transparent blue and wispy Oxblood swirling out and inside That's tuff to say the least, AnnnD Aventurine too! Not reflecting in photo, but I see that aventurine in there otherwise would never imagine other than fantasy or new. I mean, good photo as I do not see any reason to thinks it's contemporary, fake or otherwise new. To top it off a Heaton? I never saw that coming as well: 'Heaton?' Wow! So, this was dug-up at old site?
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You Know Chad Chad G. and ann In years and years, I really have not paid much attention to Royal marbles. Patches, like, I seem to recall a discussion, gosh, must have been in the 90's. Old memory is not too faded, yet. I would say; most everybody just makes a quick presumption that every Akro patch, must be a Royal. If that were true then all the marbles in a complete, and not back-filled, as in sticking a bunch of patches to replace missing others would not match the real thing. Squiggly wiggly and erratic swirly Royal patches is a thing on some. I have lost many years of info on a hard drive about 20 years ago after an electric Company Brown out. So, if I'd captured old nineties info, that's gone. Brain drain of time, still got some stuff in there. ha, ha. And as previous reply, difference in a cork is whether Barker spun it or not. Anyways, the net, and google has plenty data and so, I asked. Here's an aged Morphy auction photo and unaltered, as it appears and perhaps an early set where you get a little more verity in the patches and the colors Akro advertises, "Pastel" colors. Not great photo: I suspect, old camera low pixels but good enough to see how Royals are not always just any old patch where good eyes should see, plenty action happening on some that are not symmetric as other Akro patches and Royals tend to be. (Bonus photo below this old box set from murphy auctions.) Rightfuly, I'll plug this seller's eBay offering. No clue who it is but they have 2 original 1937 ads for sale and in it, Royals have some description. 1937 PAPER AD Akro Agates Mesh Bag Royal Box Moonstone Glass Marbles | eBay And as I understand regs and rules, laws do not prohibit displaying public availed photos, if you are not attempting to sell or earn monies, profit by doing so. So, I swiped their photo for educational purposes. Hopefully it loads as large as I blew it up so, it's easy to read the whole thing click the +'s until new page opens:
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Not so important yet, Paches like this can get squiggly on one side or the other and I think the key here is not necessarily just the Pale green. The maroon is like, not been spun as Barker's spinning cup would have twisted both together with the same motion. Straight Maroon patch and swirly Pale green motion is not in sync. For a Royal, the wiggly Pastel , Pale green is a bonus.
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BTW @browncat73 I have that big yellow Peltier in my loose pile too. And I almost forgot I'd found an older photo of a Peltier bag, I've had for years. I was going to take a better photo but, somehow, I've misplaced the bag last week. Yet, still my camera is junky. However, could not find bag because I wanted to verify the colors in photo so, old photo it is: A 60's bag Big Boy's and quite unique. Reminds me of a 60's TV commercial of a Fruit punch. Tuty-Fruity? Haywain Fruit Punch? Fruity Peltier's. the best on bottom 2nd best next to it. The colors: Lemon,-yellow, Orange- orange,, Purple Grape, Chery red, Lime Green and think one on top has a Blue for berry. It's an all in one, some kind of special run using the fruity colors. I picked the best most colorful single marble of around 10 bags. At Amana years ago:
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They are Pelt's. The last, Yellow may look like a Marbled King, which BTW an MK yellow patch and ribbon are really! hard to find but, sorry it is not. You can see across the yellow ribbon it's not solid and it's thinning across the typical dual lines in the same way many Peltier Sunsets do. .
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'Lazy Corkscrew" I think the pastel Pale green with Maroon is Akro Royal patch. However, It does not mean the two colors were not made as corks. But the way it appears, the cut lines would be at each end of a corkscrew. It looks more like a patch that got squiggly which has the colors Akro used in Royals. A pastel Pale green with Maroon Royal patch.
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Same thing, like a ribbon swirling around it. Almost like a wavy corkscrew. Corkscrew it's not. However, it seems, if I recall, years ago about discriminating Slags in a box I'd accumulated but let go over 10 years ago. , That after Akro stopped dipping (Hand-gathered with swirly 9 patterns) Akro slags, like Peltier did with their secret method or formula; became automated by a gob feeder.
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If I recall correctly, it was what Bob Block said. Years ago, Bob opened the very 1st community marble collector's chat board on the net. He gave lectures live in text. Questions and answers where he believed; based from years of association with marble collectors and research there of; 'Sparklers', accordingly, 'Are the first virtual Cat-eye'. That's to say, the process or technique began with Akro's Sparkler. So, Ann of your favorites; Sparkler and Cat-eye would be very close relatives. The quest though is: How in the heck did Akro do it? Bob said something like; 'They are injected with color'. I think, that's, due to our inability to discover a patent where it may be explained, a mystery still. Certainly, nobody is sitting next to molten gobs and sticking needles to 'inject' colors ð Maybe a hint is within Marble King's Video not long ago showing how they make Cat-eyes. Simple: With a big pot of molten clear glass, just load shovels of your colored culet into the center of the pot, It sinks into the bottom and presto bingo, out of the nozzle where it's cut, you get cemeterial crossed cat-eyes. OK, I seriously, cannot buy that. ð I mean, near perfect cemeterial crossed thin lines of color just magically forms in fluidity as it sinks to the bottom of the tank?? I think perhaps, they are not revealing what's actually going on to protect their trade secrets. And, is this "Injection" I cannot find a relative way to consider what MK says they are doing is 'Injection? Can you? However, it may indicate what Akro did. With a tank of clear; shoveling Red, Yellow, Green, Blue and White, similarly, into the center of their tank. How does it stay centered and colors cemeterial separated so it blends from one color to another? whelp, good question, regardless, perhaps MK gives us a clue to how cat-eyes are advanced Sparklers, just the same.
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When Friday's past Best Sundy's last while this pair play in any day. This 5/8" 'Snake' the three-quarter, no shorter nor the long twister from beyond, (Corkscrew) was dug-up in SW MO while the EPA removed old dirt, potentially lead in the soil, around any home who asked. Certainly a 1930's very favorite best keeper ever, long lost and found in the piles the EPA, left behind, circa:1992 when Snake s was let see the light o-day A, shines from aye spinning cup of delicacy as Barker had got the way .. Over 40 years little 'Snake was thought; lost forever and dearly missed by all who met Snake. He was thought to be a bright, sparkly, happy go lucky winner for a Prize he'd surely to be.. Not a scratch, hit, or a Knick: Mint as if it jumped out of a box just yesterday. All be together; this treasured youngster, it's big brother; 'Shooter' keeps an eye out for bullies and unground vamps be it; Shooter honors Snake's gone-by years, vowed forever, never to let from his sight will Snake again be.
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Don't hold your breath. Obviously, your grandfather has been collecting, long time. For many marble collectors you have an instant jackpot! Jars, jugs, bags and boxes of unsorted marbles since who knows when he first started filling those miscellaneous containers? Picked up at yard sales, flea markets etc. when? Got seat belts? Buckle up! ðĨī Machine made marbles, no exaggeration, are of the most difficult types of collectibles there is. The old and antique Cane-cut German's have a learning curb and gets easier. Contemporary not signed, or a known mark people can recognize; troublesome. Game, Chinese checker or solid you can push aside for later but, you'll need to learn some tough tricks as you may have some tricky ones too. Clear or completely transparent 1 color, for the most, made after circa 1925-1928, along with C-Checker marbles, not popular, hardly collectible if at all, unless pre circa 1925-8, hand gathered. Albeit, when I played as a kid, late 50-mid 60's A shooter ruby red Cleary, (I believe only Peltier made the best) was tops on kid's minds, today? junk. ðĪŠ This is nowhere close to coin collecting, stamps, cars, toys U name it. The machine-made marbles can have values into a couple of grand, a few maybe more, or zip, zero, nada, sling shot fodder. You've got your hands full and probably make your grand-pop proud, especially if you 'Knuckle down', in more ways than one, while at it. . ð
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Yeah, it looks heavy enough, industrial grade reflector. Peltier made tons of mini clearly pewees in different colors for reflectors. IDK probably the first reflectors, turn of the centry, had different sizes of marbles for them. Akro, Master and the rest probably made plenty too. At a guess, 1920-40's for this. I don't see a lock? Marble and others collect these. RxR possible, Big truck, tractor, lots of applications for anything that moves even blind corners to warn. and yeah serial or ID numbers, a name etc. Prob find more on ebay, 'collectors of reflectors!' sounds like a club already out there. ð
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I must be missing something as I have not kept up with all the new stuff being made. Yet, the first photo: turquoise or light blue, surely looks like a slag for all the wispy and un-uniformity or blending the white has. But then, U got under UV for no help. Then U shot without UV and where it looks like some uniformity, that confuses things. Since just about everybody made this color and it's not showing a CAC pattern, U can't really narrow it down to who made,. Yet color is pretty nice and 1st top left photo, I stick with that as a slag. . A Color that a Peltier, CAC and Akro could have. I used-to think that color just had to be a CAC because it's so pretty, but after having plenty dug Akro and Peltier, whelp, you just can't file slags as simple as that. The other: amber-ish, is one of the West Verginia swirls. Jabo? IDK I've never seen a Jabo look like old school WV swirls. Dang, I'd thought Ron could pick a maker, but I guess the more common WV swirls is a tough business, still.
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Get better soon Chad. I've chronic RA for almost 40 year so, Pain is my game. The upside is,,The first thing Doctors offered and for several years continued was whatever pill I wanted. Yet I've resisted addiction as I witnessed too many addicts, legal and illegal, ruin, their lives. The sun will come up tomorrow. Get U some good morning UV (sunshine) as it causes natural Vit D and helps make your days better ð
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Yeah, I didn't notice the lights till you mentioned the dots, Ann. what? 8 bulbs above and a mirror on left side? That's why I thought it may be a Cloudy, but, it's just a regular Sparkler. It'll brighten up when photographed better.ð
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Yeah Dave, There's a lot more about these then meet the eye in photos. Including, you are not always going to find the 9-spiral hiding in it. I mean, it's always there, but a few opaques may be tight, tiny, covered over or hard to understand where and why, etc.
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Have to disagree with the Master call on that Sparkler. One of the most usual colors on a Sparker is this yellow that pops right through the glass and grabs your attention. Add that blue and red with blends to this specific yellow and you're done. Well, not always done just like that because, green is another flavor you can find in the group with that yellow. The photo is not very clear, but there's a very rare Sparkler, pretty sure Les Jones had with a 100 count Sparkler box, complete Mint 'Cloudy Sparklers". On these, there's a smidgen of Milky white across, above the colors anywhere from half too 100% coverage. Areas that are completely clear too translucent because it's on the surface. This is either just a poor photo or a 'Cloudy Sparkler' and the white is very thin as the name suites it; clouding over the surface. Sorry, no Photo but I know how to describe them because I have 6 mint examples that are, 'Same run', as it were. IDK but think since 1995 or 6. Predominate colors inside mine are yellow, green, some blue and blends, a few slivers of red, bits of other color and plenty white inside too.
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