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The rod and cup.. And Steph those are all names used for marbles before similar glassed marbles were produced as corkscrews. They just kept the names. Peace,Galen

I guess if no one cared the most recent(and most popular) books wouldn't be purchased by anyone. The facts are Most collecters of machinemade marbles are veryinterested in who when where and how. Sue, you are coming off very belittleing and negative. Not just in this thread. The fact that you posted the disclaimer shows that you know it also. Nothing in your post was at all laughable. Something going on in your life we don't know about. Because you are dragging the board down lately IMHO. Posts like your last make it very tough not to be Serious. Maybe you should open up a handmade only board. maybe you could care over there. Peace,Galen

Alan, You are correct, The grooves helped grip the end of the stream and the rod gave resistance that created the corkscrew. It had to have something to basically spin around. Just dropping globs into the cup would not create a corkscrew pattern. Peace,Galen

Kryptonite hammer. Now thats serious (LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL)

WOW!!!! I have a few serious things going on in my life and I sure as hell hope what someone calls a marble will never be one. Right on Bo. One of these days I may even quit carrying those CACs loose in my pockets at the shows. (LOL) Superboy = yellow ribbons over red on a blue base sometimes combining to form orange ribbons. If there is another definition I have never heard it. Peace.Galen

It gave the now combined stream something to attach to so the stream would corkscrew(basically around the rod) creating the form we all so love.. If you just dropped a glob into the spinning cup nothing much would happen. Probably wasnt to hard for them to figure out considering they had dozens of gatherers with punties(giant version of the rod?) creating semicorkscrews at the time. Peace,Galen

IMHO no seperate yellow banding keeps it from being a Superman. Isn't that why Pelt collecters name every marble, so they are not feeling confused all the time(LOL) Peace,Galen

I have not seen any literature dated 1929 that has corksrews mentioned for sale. I believe late 29 is about when the machines were perfected enough for full time production. Patent dates do not really mean muchas the machinery was often being used before the patent was granted. But Seeing as Gob feeders were not used until the late 20s I feel the 29 date is probably a good one for Corkscrews. There was also a fair amount of developement of the corkscrew making equipment. It was finally perfected with the introduction of a rod in association with the spinning cup. It is what made the ghost like spiral one can often see in the center of some transparent based corkscrews. Peace,Galen

I believe it was Gino that made up the Poster board and used names he had heard of for the various marbles. I am saying Peltier never sold a marble they marketed as a Canary. Heck, if it is a pelt someone has probably named it. or will soon. Peace,Galen

Peltier never made a marble they called a canary. However they did have their version of a Moonie and they called them Milkies. Peace,Galen

Moonies. Many other marbles can have opalescent glass but that does not make them a Moonie. Peace,Galen

I have always thought to be a Moonie the glass should be transluscent blueish? Peace,Galen

Picked up this gropper box at the OC show from a walk in. The AAs range from brown to orange but are very distinct with the transluscent white. I have had the 2 seamer(center 4th pic) for a while. Norm Brown had a mint American Agate box of size 00 2 seamers. It was incredible. Peace,Galen

Mary, I heard the same thing from some old timers in Ohio. Peace,Galen

Most large furniture casters are bullet mold types. 2 or 3 piece molds. Not sure who made them. Peace,Galen

How in the heck does one chew those things?? Peace,Galen

sort of like the marble in the bottle stoppers. Except using a spring instead of gravity. . And yes, they have been writing to sell stories for a long time. Remember the old adage only believe half what you read. Back to the weight to space ratio for ballast. Peace,Galen

Not sure of the facts behind the ballast story. Sounds rather fishy to me. Some were found in the holds of sunk ships and assumed they were ballast. Even though mixed with other goods. And why would anyone import that many of something that could easily been made locally. We are talking many millions to make a ships ballast. And something heavier than fired clay would have to be used as ballast. To little weight to space ratio. Peace,Galen

Torpedo bombs for oil wells shipping and manuf. for fiberglass moving heavy materials anti-compaction in shipping of some powders back-flow preventers casters note, towel, broom holders

Also the snotties are swirls, not handgathered. I counted what I have of Japanese transitionals 183-- 5/8+-21/32+ most around 21/32 17--5/8 13--9/16-5/8- most a hair over 9/16 14--3/4+ 2--1+"

The corking reverse twist pattern is also found on Vitros,Champions and a lot Jabos. A few more Pelts. Peace,Galen

Peltier Multi-colored Swirls and one big ol slag. Not mine! Peace,Galen

Peltier multi-colored swirl. Nice form to the swirling. Alley Agate Vitro. Sold in a bag marked Shooters. Game marble. hit marks, not pontil markes. Pontils are almost always above the surface(or where it would be) of the marble. No Oxblood Peace,Galen

Actually it was a Champion New Old fashioned Rick. Good eye though!! Peace,Galen

Most of my transitionals of the so called Japanese type are in the 5/8" range, smaller and bigger. Andreas first 2 mibs look like the Vacors of that style. Peace,Galen