Gnome Punter Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 You are looking at pictures. The marbles,3, look like what you collect The item is listed at -3/4 in size What size are you getting ? I got (2) 5/8 and (1) 41/64 I message the guy about the confusion and I get "The header says -3/4 so just below 3/4 is 5/8 you know 5/8,6/8 and so on" The worse part is the guy has thousands of Feedback from solely selling marbles. I expected 47/64 or maybe 23/32.....what you would think you would have been receiving had you bought these ? He acts like I am being difficult and up to something as he has told me he will refund once he gets the EXACT same marbles back......I told you, I get the nutters like no other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machinemades Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 GP, It does sound like you get all the difficult ones. I agree that those sizes and the seller's explanation is unexceptible. Sami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 trippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Punter Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 I don't see how saying -3/4 missing by 1/8 or less is a problem. I have been listing marbles that way for years and never had a problem before. coyotebob2 He still thinks I am the problem here. I told him I would just keep the marbles and take the loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Punter Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Oh, side note Am I correct ? These are not Ravenswood, but Champs ? http://www.ebay.com/itm/RAVENSWOOD-MARBLES-6-MINT-5-8-OBJ-/310769300849?pt=Marbles&hash=item485b4b3571 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 I don't see how saying -3/4 missing by 1/8 or less is a problem. I have been listing marbles that way for years and never had a problem before. ... Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Punter Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 ... Wow I told ya, it's not me, I always get lucky...... : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbobam Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 I was just in the middle of responding here when that last message appeared. Give me one minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbobam Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Even as a relatively inexperienced and pretty casual collector, I'll say this. A 5/8 is a 5/8. To say <3/4 is no more accurate than saying <2 1/4. To me, < or - 3/4 suggests that a micrometer has been used, and that the marble is at least 1/64 but no more than 1/32 shy of that figure. As such, your 41/64 could have properly been called a +5/8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m!b$ Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 "I got (2) 5/8 and (1) 41/64" Two 5/8" marbles equals 10/64", plus the 41/64" marble equals 51/64". So the one marble that you received equals 51/64", which is over 3/4". I don't see what you're complaining about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Punter Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 "I got (2) 5/8 and (1) 41/64" Two 5/8" marbles equals 10/64", plus the 41/64" marble equals 51/64". So the one marble that you received equals 51/64", which is over 3/4". I don't see what you're complaining about. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantucketdink Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Oh, side note Am I correct ? These are not Ravenswood, but Champs ? http://www.ebay.com/itm/RAVENSWOOD-MARBLES-6-MINT-5-8-OBJ-/310769300849?pt=Marbles&hash=item485b4b3571 Gnome-Bob will read your posts eventually so please be respectful. Very few marble sellers accurately ID all the mibs they sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nantucketdink Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 ...and to answer the original question, I would think that the seller does not measure his marbles with calipers or circle templates. It is obvious from the sizes listed in his listings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Punter Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Gnome-Bob will read your posts eventually so please be respectful. Very few marble sellers accurately ID all the mibs they sell. Oh come on...this is not an ID...this is a size. He guessed...from a distance is all I can come up with. He sells all of that Jabo and sammys stuff and a marble is either 1 size or another. The sheer FACT he sells so much of that means he should be able to get a hel of a lot closer at a glance than most people who do use callipers. No, he tossed a number up without looking or he made a mistake....he did not make a mistake in his eyes, so I am going with the initial view as the other view would be intentional deception. Either or, I am the mistaken one here and I am now the bad guy for wanting a full refund and shipping covered both ways as far as he is concerned. I am the King of the world, His Words, because I do not feel I am responsible for ANY of the monies involved with this transaction and wanted a COMPLETE refund for sending them back. He disagreed and I told him I would keep the marbles and leave a neutral. he then made another smart ass remark and then a final insult so a neutral is out the window. I guess my point is that NO ONE would have assumed they were getting 5/8 marbles and he thinks that I am wrong in that assertion I also told him to come read, that way if he felt I was lying he could correct me. I save all of my messages and I do not make up things nor do I leave things out to color a view in my direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Someone who has sold that many marbles should know that that 1/8 of an inch makes a huge difference to marble collectors. 4/8 = peewee 5/8 = average marble size 6/8 = shooter This is crucial information. GP is not incorrect here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Marbles Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Size is important to me. Gnome, what kind of marble did you buy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopacki Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Seems funny to me that these marble sellers don't spend the little bit of money it takes to own a digital caliper. I sell digital calipers on my web site for 27.95 and I am sure they can be purchased on Ebay for less. If your selling things where size is very important then give the proper size in you description. This said I'd be leaving at least a neutral maybe a negative!! You do seem to find all of the bad apples on Ebay ................. Better you than me!! HA HA All my best ......... Danny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sissydear Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 I know this seller and he is reputable. You must have really irritated him. He always refunds money when there is a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 when giving sizes and I use a + or - it means it is ever so slightly over or under the measurement I use. And I usually break it down to at least 32nds. I will have to see how I list a marble with ebay as I still have never sold one on the bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Punter Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 I know this seller and he is reputable. You must have really irritated him. He always refunds money when there is a problem. Yes, it is my fault. I expected A and got B...that is the entire matter. I questioned him on the size issue and he went on the defensive and then started acting foolish. I have had people contact me over this and several people have vouched for him, but also saying they see where there was an issue and how there must have been a mistake and I have told the seller I am leaving no feedback. He issued a refund for the purchase amount. I told him if he would pay actual shipping back I would go ahead and send the marbles, that it was his choice. I am not out to hustle anyone...i only want to buy and pay for what I am bidding on and nothing more and most certainly nothing less. Part of his final message....I say final as he said he was done. It is your option that I was wrong. Maybe I was. Just a difference of how things or done. Doesn't make either of us right or wrong. My mind is clear and I can sleep at night. I don't believe the description was improper and surely wasn't done deceive anyone. Clearly you don't see it that way. Yes, I was a little tacky probably should not have that. Sometimes I just can help myself when I feel I am being attack for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome Punter Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 Size is important to me. Gnome, what kind of marble did you buy? William...there were just plain ol corks. But colors I did not have in 3/4 yet which was why I was excited to win them. It was small money but a big disappointment as I cannot attend marble shows and I am forced to reply on ebay. I have no luck buying anywhere else or trading and that is ok, but the whole of the hobby revolves around marbles I have to buy on the bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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