I'llhavethat1 Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 oh no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckEye Posted June 16, 2014 Report Share Posted June 16, 2014 Dang Brian, you are a wizard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCSFA86 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Folks: I missed more than I thought since I have been gone and these are one of them. As several other member have done I bought 8 of these to study. What a waste of money, fortunate for me the prices for these modern marbles is falling as more collector steer away from them but I believe it is the new collector whom are most at risk and am asking Steph to being the topic back up. I am going to re-list them as contemporary marbles and go into extreme detail, lol. Vintage my ass, lol. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I'll put a link to this thread in the archive to try to hopefully remind myself to move this over there after whatever current discussion we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 I know these sellers have been reported multiple times to ebay. I think we should all complain at one time to ebay... a coordinated effort with a statement endorsed by a lot of the collectors in the community. Then we can all add our signatures and copy/paste it to the "report this auction" link on ebay. It'd a shame this person is allowed to continue to rip people off this way and it's a shame that ebay continues to allow it even after hundreds or thousands of reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCSFA86 Posted March 14, 2015 Report Share Posted March 14, 2015 He has been at it since Aug of 2013 and would bet has racked up a bunch of Ebay and Paypal fees which they gladly except and as long as the cash is coming in Ebay will turn a blind eye. What really pisses me off is the re-sellers in the states that intentionally deceive bidders knowing full well that when they purchased the marbles they weren't vintage. Rant over, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBlock Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 They're starting to appear in the secondary market now. I bought a marble off of Ebay recently that looked ok in the images (they weren't the best images in the world, but it looked interesting). When it got here, it turned out to be a Bulgarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBlock Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 I meant in the last post that it came from a US seller, who is usually pretty reliable in what they sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Alleynut Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 And you wont get an Answer Galen, A seller from Bulgaria last year in early 2014 made a big mistake by having some photos of them up for sale in a Window sill In (Bulgaria) Prior to this photo I had serious thoughts as others that they could have some age to them, heck nice patterns pretty glass hand gatherd (9's) whats not to like, a wide array of colors. Problem was in this photo that the bulgarin seller had put on ebay was you could very clearly see the tell tale reflection of a Glass furnace in the backround, clear as day. After that photo my thoughts of any age to them went up in smoke real quick, and of coarse when theres $$$$ involved they will give the marbles any titlle they so choose, handmade, antigue, vintage, Leighton, what ever they want to put the $$$ in the bank, I think they will definetly continue to do this as long as they keep selling, Sometimes they go for cheap while others can go between 20.00 and 60.00 depending on the colors and beauty of the pattern, Old Vintage Antique Leighton"s, No, fake imposter cheap imitations,Lieing cheating Bulgarian glass artists that want in your wallet because they have found out that American collectors will pay good money for something different and unique YES ! The worst part of it is when the reach the U.S. and american marble collectors and dealers try and pass them off as Old or Leighton's once there are here is just not right, Perhaps they should be referred to as Bulgarian Art Glass marbles, with the vintage tag removed, and of coarse when they first arrived on the scene many people including myself were intrigued and had to have a few at least as examples just incase they happened to be actually old, The earlier ones have very rough ground or sheared pontils, as long as there are buyers they will continue to make them, I wonder how many are in the large gunny sack photo? DB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Alleynut Posted March 15, 2015 Report Share Posted March 15, 2015 Very crude Ground. to so long to write the first post, there the photo of the Furnace is, Great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCSFA86 Posted March 16, 2015 Report Share Posted March 16, 2015 Folks: Check out some of his listings for the clearer examples. You can see the reflection of what appears to be an out door work shop, lol. http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-HAND-MADE-MARBLE-63-64-GROUND-PONTIL-/221716238797?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item339f5151cd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCSFA86 Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 Folks: I think it's time to have some fun and see if it has any impact. Here is the draft of the listing: -------------- @WW@ 5 CONTEMPORARY BULGARIAN HAND MADE USING RE-CYCLED GLASS MARBLES LOT 1000: 5 EA CONTEMPORARY BULGARIAN HAND MADE USING RE-CYCLED GLASS MARBLES, SINGLE PONTIL, SLIGHTLY UNDER 1", HAS SOME SURFACE CREASES, EXAMPLES ARE APPROXIMATELY 1/64" OUT OF ROUND OTHERWISE MINT. THE UNKNOWN MAKERS ARE DOING QUITE A JOB AT PRODUCING A VARIED GROUP OF MARBLES NEVER SEEN BEFORE. THE NINES ARE REMINISCENT OF MARBLES MADE YEARS AGO. IT APPEARS THAT THESE MARBLES ARE MADE FROM RE-CYCLED GLASS (GOING GREEN!) AS THE LARGE AMOUNT OF EMBEDDED DIRT WOULD INDICATE (CLEARLY SEEN IN THE FIRST AS WELL AS OTHER PICS). IT WOULD ALSO APPEAR THAT THIS PROCESS WILL ONLY IMPROVE MAKING THEIR FIRST PRODUCTION RUNS THAT MORE VALUABLE. HERE IS YOUR CHANCE TO OWN WHAT IS SURE TO BE HIGHLY COLLECTIBLE IN YEARS TO COME THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO PASS ON TO FUTURE GENERATIONS OF CONTEMPORARY MARBLE COLLECTORS. GOOD LUCK! 1st Pic in Listing: ------------- I am open to any suggestions regarding the verbiage and seek it. I will list it before I call it a day. Thanks, Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted March 17, 2015 Report Share Posted March 17, 2015 I like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCSFA86 Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 Done. In the best of all world the sellers will see this and realize that the best approach moving forward would be to list these as contemporaries. I have to admit that there Guinea style marbles appear to be older as I can see no comparison with the glass used to produce the untold number of swirls hitting Ebay and the Guinea's. Is there a simple method to test the age of glass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Ah, here's where that question went. I knew I saw it. I do not think there is a simple method to test the age of glass. When I think of that question I think of California sulphides. Was the age question ever resolved for those? (And if so, how?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco005 Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 He's back at it again ! I was almost falling for it, and asked about them, so glad I did, here's the link. Some of them look pretty good to me, but, then, I like the machine mades. http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&_udlo=&_udhi=&_ftrt=901&_ftrv=1&_sabdlo=&_sabdhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=32250-1732&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_fss=1&_fsradio=%26LH_SpecificSeller%3D1&_saslop=1&_sasl=supermarbles&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50 Hope that link works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted June 15, 2015 Report Share Posted June 15, 2015 We need a picture of his face ... you know ... to go with the outline of him and workshop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblebee Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 This seller is selling these in beat-up "old" condition which is more compelling. Sold several lots already. If it weren't for the infamous furnace reflection photos from the primary seller of these, I'd be tempted to nibble at the hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YasudaCollector Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 This guy kind of looks like one. Everyone I show it too agrees that it is probably Bulgarian or newer Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YasudaCollector Posted May 15 Report Share Posted May 15 Have these marbles also appeared in other ex-Communist bloc countries? A lot of these marbles are probably contemporary, but could some of them have been produced in the Soviet era? (Like 1970s or 1980s). I think my marble is at least 15 or so years old. The collector I bought it from said he'd had it for over 10 years, and he said he had originally bought it from another guy who had had it for a few years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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