mibcapper Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 does anyone have a picture to post of a .. say .. 6x8" .... yellow top .. with box top logo of a crown at top .. champion marble .. then berry pink n.y.c. at bottom. 24 marbles ... bag ... included. thanks .. bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 This one? http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/7013338 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibcapper Posted September 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 yep, that's it galen ... thanks .. bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 You can see four of them at my house. What do you need ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibcapper Posted September 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 You can see four of them at my house. What do you need ? more money ron .... .. .... ... and the list goes on... and on ... absolutely .. no .. foreign houseguests .. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Alleynut Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 There is also 1 on Ebay Bill, Curious Ron, are yours full of Pelts to?? DB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Hi Dave. How are you? I would expect them to all have Pelts. Champion was a Pelt packaging name when Berry Pink was jobbering for them. Later, if I recall correctly, he started jobbering Pelts in a very similar box but it said "Marble King" instead of "Champion". And it's possible that some of those boxes which say Marble King on them may have been sold with Alleys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Alleynut Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 I'm Ok Steph, Thank you for the information, Bill and Ron turned into Clams on me there, DB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 I think Steph said it well. Bill and Ron must be out chasing marbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibcapper Posted September 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 well ... kinda was ric ... found some too .. ... ... only takes 2 pics ... bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibcapper Posted September 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 hmm .. only 2 .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibcapper Posted September 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 patience, ... har .. bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibcapper Posted September 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 1 1/4" m.k. kitties and .. super glowers ... ........ bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted September 27, 2014 Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 Nice, Bill. You sure you're not back in Illinois? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibcapper Posted September 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2014 happened in cambridge too .... ............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 You find these box sets with marbles inside which were produced by Peltier,Alley and Marble King. Cambridge auction last Saturday. Five out of state house guest here since last Sunday and Sistersville show going since last Thursday. Long days short nights. Busy clam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mibcapper Posted September 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 You find these box sets with marbles inside which were produced by Peltier,Alley and Marble King. Cambridge auction last Saturday. Five out of state house guest here since last Sunday and Sistersville show going since last Thursday. Long days short nights. Busy clam. har .... u shouda left my .. tag .. on that door .. .... .... ................ livinandluvin .... in wild and wonderful wv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 My thought is that the ones with Marble King are backfilled by people who associated Berry Pink with the Marble King company, not understanding that Pink's use of the Marble King brand came long before Marble King company marbles started to be made. Any disagreement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Perhaps the boxes were found and filled after MK started making marbles? Weren't some early bags - Pelts, Alleys or MKs, in the same style packaging? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 I'm not inclined to believe that happened. However, I'm interested in whether others think it's likely, so thanks. Here is the kind of packaging which I think all three of those makers might be able to be found in: Marble King ad from 1953 with Alleys Peltier and MK did share marbles during the poly bag years, so I would be intrigued but not completely surprised to see MKs in a poly bag with Champion or Champion Jr. on it. I would be surprised to find MKs in leftover Champion or Champion Jr. mesh bags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Do you have a date for the boxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Steph are you saying that all these type box sets were filled,complete,finished before Marble King started in business ? That they were all filled originally before Marble King Co. and all predate Marble King company ? What is the exact date of these box sets ? Maybe a date can be put with these box sets by advertisments ? That would be a current date for the ad and box set. I am not sure that it would indicate a end date for use of these boxes ? If the ones filled with Marble King marbles were all backfilled,and not original someone was busy. Just me but,I have seen almost a equal number of all three companies marbles in these box sets. If the Marble King Co. filled other companies bags with their marbles,why could they or Berry Pink not have filled these box sets with Marble King Co. marbles ? Marble KIng Co. had direct ties with Berry Pink and Peltier. There is cross packaging between all three of these so why not these box sets ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 I believe these boxes also predate Marble King the company by a time greater than would have them originally filled with Marble King Marbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Why Galen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 When I started typing this post, I didn't remember any dates. But while looking for a box which someone got empty and wanted to fill properly, I found some dates. So anyway, yes, it was my thought that they all predate the mid-1950's or whenever it was that Marble King started making Rainbows. (Howdyshell in his interview in AMMM said they started veneering in 1956 or 1957.) If I got one with Marble Kings in it, I wouldn't remove them. However, I would suspect they were backfilled. If a lot are found that way, my guess would be that this was because so few people have known what was supposed to go in them. I could see people changing the Pelts out because they just didn't know that Berry Pink was jobbering for Peltier when these boxes were made. The 1953 ad I linked to above doesn't list them. AMMM shows a 1954 ad which looks like the 1953 ad. I think maybe I've seen a 1955 ad which looks roughly the same. Not sure where I would have that one. Probably a paper copy which I have stored in a box. Gotta index that box. It's the one filled with goodies from George. Okay, next post will have some dated material showing the Champion version at least. Think I might also have something which says Marble King on it. Not sure. Gonna take a minute to look. Be right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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