BuckEye Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Found these in a collection. Figured most would like to see how they were made and where. Marbles are 7/8”- 15/16”. Hope this clears up some confusion on these Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 The bag clip is almost as interesting.... as it suggests a modern production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclsu Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 West Germany would indicate 1950's or later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Marbles Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 New Old Stock from a warehouse find and packaged for contemporary consumption? Shackman had a retail store in Manhattan. https://retail.shackman.com/ "For children over 3 years" is a voluntary label applied by toy manufacturers/retailers. "The Child Safety Protection Act", 1994, enacted specific labeling for marbles. So, pre-1994 for sure. Possibly 1980's? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Marbles Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Craig, What does the raised printing on the inside of the blue clip say? John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckEye Posted December 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 Good research guys John, it says carry-seal II. (Carry-seal then Roman numeral 2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 Veiligglas has made marbles from 1949-1961. This can be read in the newspaper article of 1959. "In the past the marbles were simply delivered in large bags,there are customers who order a certain quantity, as it measured per number and not by weight,one operates from a wooden shovel with 100 spheres. For the English, one has a shovel with 144 holes,so that one can work with gros. Lately,the demand for 6 or 12 pieces in a box became increasingly larger"" To me It seems that the marbles are older than the packaging they are in. Here are some boxes,pic- not mine.Also a nice pic- of the building I found lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBlock Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 17 hours ago, sclsu said: West Germany would indicate 1950's or later West Germany would indicate 1989 or earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Marbles Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 Okay, here is what I was able to find... The closure device is of German Patent origin from c.1957-1960. Inventor Hans Brenker (assigned to Neoplastik Braunschweig Kunststoffwerk) was awarded US Patent 2951273. https://www.google.com/patents/US2951273 It would be safe to say that Neoplastik made the closures and Hans was an employee. So, these packages could have been made and boxed from 1957 (creation of closure) to 1961 (end of Veiligglas). Very cool! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Marbles Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 An additional thought... We know when the Closure was invented and when Veiligglas ended. One would suppose the dates were between 1957 and 1961. However, Craig noted the wording on the closure as "CARRY-SEAL II". Usually, when a patent approaches expiration, that invention is "modified" or "improved", so that product protection can be extended. Version 1 of the closure may have read "CARRY-SEAL" and Version 2 would be "CARRY-SEAL II". Maybe, the marbles were made before 1961 and stored in bulk boxes. They could have been packaged in smaller mesh bags much later (but before 1989) for Shackman to sell. Pure speculation on my part. Thanks, John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg11 Posted December 6, 2017 Report Share Posted December 6, 2017 Really cool picture of the factory, love those old German vehicles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofKent Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 Silly question, but why would marbles made in Holland be labelled as Made in West Germany? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstmmrbls Posted December 17, 2017 Report Share Posted December 17, 2017 occasionally packaging assembled in one country did not have individual contents origin labeled. such as solitaire sets with German marbles labeled made in Great Britain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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