swirls for id

[bonniemarbles]

The first batch have has heavy swirls on transparent bases, the next Is a mix I thought could have W.Va. swirls, the third batch is just confusing to me,  all info is appreciated, Bonnie

[Steph]

First picture: I think the green and white is a slag. And I think the other three are Alleys.

[Al Oregon]

The blue & red almost has a Peltier Rainbo feel.  Maybe another view?

[Steph]

Al has a point.  I was thinking Alley Ghost, but I do see room for it to turn out to be Pelt instead.

[wvrons]

The St.Marys Alley Ghost has to have a good amount of clear.

[bonniemarbles]

Here's other views of the red & blue marble -I found two cut lines with my magnifying glass so am leaning to Peltier also- the cut lines were really hard to find in the swirls & I hadn't even thought of Peltier. I also found the blue base is translucent with a few very fine clear lines that go through the marble to the other side. (If It takes this same amount of time & thought process for all my unidentified marbles I'll still be going through them when the virus is done!.) O.K., so can I call this a Superboy marble? Thanks bunches, Bonnie

[Berryb]

I think Pelt too. Rainbo not superboy.

Bruce

[wvrons]

Correct ! Peltier Rainbo. No Superboy. Superboy is older better Peltier marble a NLR. Superboy is blue base and red ribbons but also has to be a NLR.

[wvrons]

The yellow base with red is a Alley made at the Sistersville WV location, about late 1931-32.

[bonniemarbles]

      Ron, this is about my favorite marble, so I'm really trying to tell Alleys from other marbles of similar look. I put these marbles under the screen with your great picture of the array of Alleys & these other 4 of mine had the same looks of many there- are there tell-tale signs that these are or aren't Alleys?  There's a Jabo classic the looks much the same except the red swirls look larger & less delicate -I have 4 for comparison, but I don't know of others I need to be aware of. I'm sort of a stickler about categories, I want all my peas to be peas, so I want my favorite marbles to be in their right place (I like this color combination in Peltier too, but their are easy to id & put together ). Thank you for all your help, & to others that have responded, Bonnie

[wvrons]

All four Alleys.   With the 5/8 Jabos similar to these. The red most times is wider, it will stay on the surface more, Many times the red will be in a C-U or S shape and on about half the marble. There is a 3/4 inch Jabo named Frank's Alley. Named for Frank Sellers a friend of mine and grandson of L.E. Alley.  I have never seen a 3/4 Alley with this yellow base and red or orange. The 5/8 Jabo classics will also usually have small white marks, pecks, little sparkles, hits. They mixed the different colors of the 5/8 Jabo classics with 2 1/2 gallon metal buckets. A 1500-2000Lb. box of red, one of blue, one of green setting side by side along with a empty box. A metal bucket full or marbles from each box, dumped over into the empty box. So they have lots of contact spots. Lots of small or tiny white looking spots on a otherwise mint 5/8 marble beware of Jabo classics.  

 The 3/4 Jabo Frank's Alley looks the nearest to these true 5/8 Alleys.  Size matters. If like these and 3/4 it is 99% chance of Jabo.

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[Marbleized]

I love that flaming marble.  What perfect colors for it!

[bonniemarbles]

 Of m y  4 look-alikes, 3 have a white hit mark, 2 have U's, 1 has an S, & last has a snake, all 3/4 in. You called them perfectly- all 4 qualify for "Frank's Alley" Jabos & are  good comparison marbles to have- thanks for the info-Bonnie

[wvrons]

I do not see many of the Frank"s Alleys Jabos any more. They were made about 2003, same run as the first or early Jabo Superman. I was at Jabo when both were made.  Most people has forgot the name or what they look like.  But the serious Jabo collectors know them. 

[bonniemarbles]

     For those interested here's quick shots, one of the hit marks I found, & one of the Jabo "U's, S & snake- I also just had to put in one of my favorite Jabo color combinations with adenturine from Jinks Run, 2009, one of mu first ebay Purchases.