Chad G. Posted August 25, 2022 Report Share Posted August 25, 2022 8 hours ago, crashbelt said: Thursday again! Here's a little 6" board with 14-15mm banded transparent swirls. Ground pontils and I have a feeling it might even be early 20th Century. An unremarkable set which I find rather attractive anyway!! Man, another nice board of mibs David, most excellent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted August 25, 2022 Report Share Posted August 25, 2022 Some more Joseph Coats for this "Thüringen Thursday" 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave 13 Posted August 25, 2022 Report Share Posted August 25, 2022 18 hours ago, crashbelt said: Thursday again! Here's a little 6" board with 14-15mm banded transparent swirls. Ground pontils and I have a feeling it might even be early 20th Century. An unremarkable set which I find rather attractive anyway!! The board Man strikes again lol another killer board with wicked HM’s thx for showing us 👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave 13 Posted August 25, 2022 Report Share Posted August 25, 2022 10 hours ago, Chad G. said: Some more Joseph Coats for this "Thüringen Thursday" Wow very nice Chad ,the 1st and last pics are wicked 🥇 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashbelt Posted August 25, 2022 Report Share Posted August 25, 2022 14 hours ago, Chad G. said: Some more Joseph Coats for this "Thüringen Thursday" There's something special about those Josephs - great examples Chad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 Chad you are going to cause me to hunt Joseph Coats again. How large were they made ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted August 26, 2022 Report Share Posted August 26, 2022 48 minutes ago, wvrons said: Chad you are going to cause me to hunt Joseph Coats again. How large were they made ? Always my favorites, largest I've ever had was a touch over 1.25 but I know they come bigger, so does the $$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashbelt Posted August 31, 2022 Report Share Posted August 31, 2022 Here's 12 of the 5/8" onions from one of my favourite boards. All wet mint faceted pontils. They're pictured from above the poles to try to show the different numbers of panels. There's single colour, 2, 3, 4 and 6 panel examples. It always strikes me how skilled the workers were over 150 years ago and the care they took over these things in the early years, even for these small marbles. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ann Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 That`s what caused me to fall in love with the old Germans first. Only when I had a nice sampling of as many types as I could get my hands on did I start to see the attractions of other types of marbles. But I still have a pretty soft spot for the old Germans. OK, a very soft spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 Killer onions David a Custard & a Carmel swirl for this "Thüringen Thursday" well @ least that's what I call em. Custard Carmel 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave 13 Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 Hi I got some Bennington‘s for this Thüringen Thursday I’m not sure on the 1st pics if it’s one or not it’s got a square instead of the round looking eyes Nice HM David & Chad 👍 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashbelt Posted September 1, 2022 Report Share Posted September 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Dave 13 said: Hi I got some Bennington‘s for this Thüringen Thursday I’m not sure on the 1st pics if it’s one or not it’s got a square instead of the round looking eyes Nice HM David & Chad 👍 Dave those Bennie's look 👽!!! Cool. Love the custards and carmels Chad they're pretty rare. My UK board collector buddy Tom snagged a complete board with custards. I'd go the extra $$ mile for one of those!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashbelt Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 Here a some Josephs off one of my boards (well the bottom right isn't from the set but I like a symmetrical pic😂). They are quite crudely made and finished compared to the early period onions I put up recently, but I like them. Guess they would be (incorrectly) called English colours. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, crashbelt said: Here a some Josephs off one of my boards (well the bottom right isn't from the set but I like a symmetrical pic😂). They are quite crudely made and finished compared to the early period onions I put up recently, but I like them. Guess they would be (incorrectly) called English colours. Killer mibs David my favorite Handmades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 "Gutta Percha Marbles" Thought it was time to post something on these since most probably don't know about them and if they do they really don't know what they're made of. I have never had one but have seen some in hand and can appreciate the beauty of them. LINK :: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutta-percha LINK :: https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALiCzsYS_n7pAvaCTG3bg0uoW8z5hOvVHQ:1662589511922&source=univ&tbm=isch&q=gutta+percha+marbles&fir= LINK ::https://www.allaboutmarbles.com/viewtopic.php?t=21887 LINK :: https://www.marblecollecting.com/marble-reference/online-marble-id-guide/other-non-glass-materials/ Here's one Jeff & Tammy had for sale on their "Old Rare Marbles" site. LINK :: https://oldraremarbles.com/product/gutta-percha/ Some pix I had saved in a folder, can't remember where I got em ?? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave 13 Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 On 9/1/2022 at 10:02 AM, crashbelt said: Dave those Bennie's look 👽!!! Cool. Thanks David I was trying to turn them so they looked like they were looking at us 👍nice group of Josephs you posted 😎 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave 13 Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 Today I got some two old clays and a couple Leightons Thanks for the info on Gutta Percha Marbles Chad 👍 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff54 Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 Double tunnel vs Road and tunnel vs Germany vs Christensen Agate or 'What's going on where?" It's getting late for Thüringen's play but somebody's popcorn is getting stale. and I been busy. . . Beter late than never, is where these marbles lay too. You know, Road and tunnel as described by Chris Robertson in his hand-made verities. That they were a gathered technique long lost. However, they are in many Christensen Agate's marbles which for all we know, have no reasoning to have been H-G. Yet, guess what? Of the 80 dug-up Akro H-g's, I found 2, Road and tunnel slags that are evident 'as made' the same as all other H-G marbles. Go figure? Watz-sup-wit-dat? Now how in the heck were these (Photos below) Double Tunnels made? The first I'd discovered of this was some time ago, when E-bay had recently opened up their German auctions. It became my secret spot because, in order to play, you had to read and respond in German. That wasn't easy but hardly anybody knew to look there and, I knew where and how to use translators to help. Plus teach German sellers how to use their ridicules postal system that it does not cost and arm and a leg to ship overseas.. So, the first one I found, I was like, what? and scooped it up, though I did not have a clue what it was, nor any tunnels. It just had so much going on with all the blending. When I got it and saw the road and tunnel effect it was hard to imagine but colors were surly not Christensen Agate or anything I'd seen before. And in hand, it is not as bright as my photo. Under lights, action, Camera, bang! I called it; The Woody. Yet, as I studied it, then, I began to see them in German auctions and most anywhere else yet, that's the thing, actually, never saw them elsewhere before. Not in Shows, marbles video auctions, Ebay US or other, like France, England and Australia. I learned the names different countries called marbles and searched high and low. Even today, although I have not searched in many years now, I do not have any evidence they were made in Thüringen or Germany. Clues: Found in Germany and the very best seem to be oldest where in one group, I got German clear stripped transparent, or we call German slags, with some a little different from the norm. Different clear color and the stripes are different in a few too. Not much evidence especially I do not know of anything where Germany takes claim with exception of the striped transparent. The more I hunted and acquired, what seems to be newer is, they 'feel' like maybe as early as 40's and as late as the 1960's. The older appear to be the best. Yet, How could this be, Hand Gathered? Coincidence and just a tad off how CAC did it? They're certainly; whoever made these, used older equipment or process similar to what Christensen Agate did, but I got no clue. . East or West German, USSR, Czech, Poland, France, maybe even for some of the newer colors Dutch or like the Dutch guy did, a single start up? OK, for the show; I know I run on a lot, ha! Startin on my first, then a group, included a single seam loop, except for color, only Christensen Agate made. Where you easily see the loop (Tunnel) in The Woody, at the seam line, low right, there appears to be a road but, most all do this and it's actually another loop, top left. "Double tunnel" Again, in this orange and white, looks like a Road and tunnel but nope; what appears on the bottom as a road, it loops as all of these do once you know what's happening. And the cut off, shear marks, cut lines, looks like CAC too. No Doubles here as single fold and the only one like it. All of the above and this blue and white below seem to be the oldest and mint; as made, where surfaces are not perfectly smooth, that's also like larger CAC marbles may do too. Go Figure?. And a group where the blue and white above shows the reverse, that goes wild enough, you have to know where the backside tunnel is, least you'd think' Road and Tunnel; no doubt. I have only found Double tunnels in 7/8" size. The smaller marbles in this photo are regular German Striped transparent No ' double tunnels' but, different from the norm and a few, potentially older. . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashbelt Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 Thanks to Chad and Jeff for this week's amazing contributions!! Thursday is turning into a serious Thuringen study area🤔. I just missed out in an eBay auction for a board of Gutta Perchas years ago. Never seen another since and I'm still annoyed with myself for not going higher🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff54 Posted September 9, 2022 Report Share Posted September 9, 2022 On 8/31/2022 at 5:44 PM, crashbelt said: Here's 12 of the 5/8" onions from one of my favourite boards. All wet mint faceted pontils. They're pictured from above the poles to try to show the different numbers of panels. There's single colour, 2, 3, 4 and 6 panel examples. It always strikes me how skilled the workers were over 150 years ago and the care they took over these things in the early years, even for these small marbles. Crash, I had a set that were all melted pontal, from England. I reluctantly put in and auction when I down sized and emptied my 3 story Victorian home, Estate full of antiques and collectibles, thought it might bring in more people.. Anyway, it had a lesson to learn and I began seeing the patterns in a few more sets and or groups that were remnants from Solitaire boards. Unfortunately the photo is lost. There were four sets of three that fit at the ends of the board's cross. Two sets were nice white latticinios inside. Of those 2 sets 3 were 'Same cane' of one color, and a set of white Lats a different color. So, a total of 6 lats that, on the board, opposed each other. .. Another 6 of another but not lats, (I forget exactly). 3 were same cane and other same cane, same style but different outer or inside color. In total it makes 4 sets of 3 same cane on outer edges. Inside, there were sets of 2 styles, then finally singles which each were different, but, graduated from least to the greatest number of colors or increased strands leaving the center hole empty or had a ceramic red that I guess got lost. . It was more than you'd expect. The idea that when they were originally put in boxes that were carefully packaged in groups and sets. Since then, I could see that, it wasn't the only one like this. Only difference is, apparently folks selling them don't see the pattern. Not all Solitaire boards are like that, but look for 4 sets of 3, sets of 2 and a set of mixed with graduating colors, low too highest .., There's others. Your photo reminded me as you have a set of 3 pink and while panels, maybe others, like white and blue panel. And, one other that's looking best of all, potentially fits as top of the whole or part of graduating group. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 A repost I know but still my favorite and biggest mica Onionskin for this "Thüringen Thursday" a little pocket ware but I'm no gonna complain 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 Just dug up a pic I haven't posted yet, another from the 09 auction, @ almost 1, 1/8th inches a large Latt. jelly core Josephs Coat for this "Thüringen Thursday" already posted all the coats I have now so gonna freshen up w/ a little retro. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashbelt Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 One of my best and rarest boards - the Numerical Puzzle by John Jaques featuring a set of numbered glazed chinas. The Registration stamp on the base which protected the design, dates to 1858 - the game also featured in the brochure of a high end London games retailer in 1867. Jaques was making games from the late 1700s and is still trading! Probably the top maker of solitaire and other games boards in the Victorian era. I have 7 definite and 7 probable Jaques sets in my collection. Sadly their archive was destroyed in an air raid in 1941. Interestingly the number 7 is the British form without the German cross-bar. Presumably Jaques specified that to the marble makers in Thüringen! Strangely this is the only board I've ever bought from a German seller. Go figure!! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashbelt Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 4 hours ago, Chad G. said: A repost I know but still my favorite and biggest mica Onionskin for this "Thüringen Thursday" a little pocket ware but I'm no gonna complain Sensational marble Chad!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave 13 Posted September 15, 2022 Report Share Posted September 15, 2022 Wow that’s a big Onionskin chad Thanks for posting that rare board David I got more Bennington‘s the big one in the 1st pic is 1 1/4 inch 👍 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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