Mojo Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 Scored this today at a market I think this one is a real antique handmade millifoire Hope anyone can help me out and can tell me more about it Bought it for 5 dollar from an old man on the market Good buy ? I think its worth a lot more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad G. Posted October 10, 2021 Report Share Posted October 10, 2021 I can't really tell Brother?? They make the new stuff in much the same as the old, a real piece can get really spendy, by that I mean in the thousands $$ for some mint examples. I'm sure someone that knows a lot more about Millefiori will post, "Alan" has some newer pieces he's posted and seems pretty up on the subject so hopefully he'll see this thread ?? "Nice Piece Brother" I understand these are a lot of work and not just anybody can make them ?? You can see the construction, all separate individual different colored canes. I think the record is a piece of Clichy that went for at or over a hundred grand $100,000. Here's a piece for sale I googled real quick !! A pretty good size website to check outw/ new and antique examples, have fun diggin Brother !! LINK : https://www.thepaperweightcollection.com/products/extremely-rare-antique-clichy-newel-post-finial-with-complex-concentric-millefiori 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 On 10/10/2021 at 12:08 PM, Chad G. said: I can't really tell Brother?? They make the new stuff in much the same as the old, a real piece can get really spendy, by that I mean in the thousands $$ for some mint examples. I'm sure someone that knows a lot more about Millefiori will post, "Alan" has some newer pieces he's posted and seems pretty up on the subject so hopefully he'll see this thread ?? "Nice Piece Brother" I understand these are a lot of work and not just anybody can make them ?? You can see the construction, all separate individual different colored canes. I think the record is a piece of Clichy that went for at or over a hundred grand $100,000. Here's a piece for sale I googled real quick !! A pretty good size website to check outw/ new and antique examples, have fun diggin Brother !! LINK : https://www.thepaperweightcollection.com/products/extremely-rare-antique-clichy-newel-post-finial-with-complex-concentric-millefiori It's UV sensitive An old piece....must be 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 I also am not sure it is old as before 1960's. It is a paper weight not a marble. I see more of the millefiori as paper weights than I do marbles. The last one I bought was 2 inches and I paid $3.00. I thought that was cheap enough. But I tried for five years to sell it at marble shows for $5.00 with no luck. I gave it away to a kid at a marble show last year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 2nd opinions and 3rd and more are welcome Not going to sell or guve it away , just like to know what i have here , a paper weigjt , thats very clear , millifoire also , but it was really a suprise that it lite up like this...the new modern ones dont do that and tbis one is not round at the top like the new and modern ones are that i saw , so a small chance this is a special one ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 Its a reasonably modern paperweight. The canes are mass-produced types. It was made in a bit of a hurry by a person with limited experience doing so. I'd consider it a low-cost, mass produced weight intended to retail inexpensively in the last 3-4 decades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Alan said: Its a reasonably modern paperweight. The canes are mass-produced types. It was made in a bit of a hurry by a person with limited experience doing so. I'd consider it a low-cost, mass produced weight intended to retail inexpensively in the last 3-4 decades. Alan , what do you think of this one ? They told me its handmade in France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Posted October 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Alan said: Its a reasonably modern paperweight. The canes are mass-produced types. It was made in a bit of a hurry by a person with limited experience doing so. I'd consider it a low-cost, mass produced weight intended to retail inexpensively in the last 3-4 decades. Another question What canes am i looking for in a paperweight ? Do you have an example or a direction so i can do some futher research and het more knowledge about these millifoire types Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Mojo said: Another question What canes am i looking for in a paperweight ? Do you have an example or a direction so i can do some futher research and het more knowledge about these millifoire types I'd recommend reading a few paperweight books. Look for used books. There are many styles both vintage and modern. I takes building a visual memory from thousands of photos with attribution over time. Even some of the finest modern weights (e.g. Paul Stankard: ) can run $2,500 - $25,000). Paperweight collecting is generally several steps up the cost ladder from marble collecting. There are huge number of modern, low-cost weights made for gift shops etc. Some more Paul Stankard eye candy: https://www.thisiscolossal.com/2014/06/artistic-glass-paperweights-paul-stankard/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted October 11, 2021 Report Share Posted October 11, 2021 Sorry I didn't realize that I recommended for you to sell or give it away. It was just my opinion or experience, forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Posted October 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 11 hours ago, wvrons said: Sorry I didn't realize that I recommended for you to sell or give it away. It was just my opinion or experience, forget it. I know 👌😁✌ , did not take it like that at all Thanks for the comments Ron , always appreciated when you do 👍 You are one of the experts and we can learn from your experience and always enjoy the background stories , the history lessons from you Marble on and God bless ya 🤹♂️🙏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvrons Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 I may also learn something. Where did you find out that only the very old ones glow ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Posted October 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 15 hours ago, wvrons said: I may also learn something. Where did you find out that only the very old ones glow ? I assumed it is old because it has a yellow / green glow just like the older type of german handmades , so i figurred they used the same type of glas ?? Here an example of a schrunken unionskinn that has the same yellow ish green glow Not the very bright toxic green but different So when i lighted the paper weight up....what i saw made me think it is old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Posted October 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2021 On 10/11/2021 at 5:29 PM, Alan said: Its a reasonably modern paperweight. The canes are mass-produced types. It was made in a bit of a hurry by a person with limited experience doing so. I'd consider it a low-cost, mass produced weight intended to retail inexpensively in the last 3-4 decades. This is a nice one i found for 8 dollar What you think of this one Allen ? Light blue , green ish glass Flower inside , and the bottom not polished Looks nice and for 8 dollar i am a happy camper and my collection of these grows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Posted October 24, 2021 Report Share Posted October 24, 2021 I've never had the notion too collect in this area, but there are quite a few variations I have seen at some of the area antique malls I am a regular at. I'll have to snap some shots for this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Posted October 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2021 20211024_120457.mp4 a little impression how they arthey organise it here in the Netherlands This is a yearly market just around the corner where i live 20211024_120457.mp4 29 minutes ago, William said: I've never had the notion too collect in this area, but there are quite a few variations I have seen at some of the area antique malls I am a regular at. I'll have to snap some shots for this thread. 20211024_113400.mp4 20211024_113400.mp4 20211024_113400.mp4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Posted October 24, 2021 Report Share Posted October 24, 2021 A handful of examples I saw today... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted October 24, 2021 Report Share Posted October 24, 2021 Very nice mojo 👍 Here is one of the ones my aunt made when she worked as a glass blower when I was a kid... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 On 10/24/2021 at 9:20 AM, Mojo said: This is a nice one i found for 8 dollar What you think of this one Allen ? Light blue , green ish glass Flower inside , and the bottom not polished Looks nice and for 8 dollar i am a happy camper and my collection of these grows Very new weight. High speed, low cost mass-produced type. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Posted October 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 7 hours ago, Alan said: Very new weight. High speed, low cost mass-produced type. Shocking 😅 But....i like em and these are nice to build a collection with besides marbles and one day i will find a prizewinner Not a single marble on that market and did not want to go home empty handed Mutch to learn about paperweights and i appreciate your help 🤝 To be continued....Ill be Back 🤓👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Posted October 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 7 hours ago, Alan said: Very new weight. High speed, low cost mass-produced type. And this is not a pontil mark ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmoozer Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Mojo said: And this is not a pontil mark ? It is but doesn’t denote age. Many are Chinese in origin. You have to wonder how much the workers are paid when they ship it to the US and sell it for a few bucks. Slave labor comes to mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmoozer Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 We collect Blenko glass, look up Blenko paperweights on eBay. Not millefiori but… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 19 hours ago, Mojo said: And this is not a pontil mark ? Technically its a "punty" mark. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Posted October 29, 2021 Report Share Posted October 29, 2021 When in Winona yesterday, I saw a group of weights and among them was one that had a worn sticker on the bottom. Couldn't make anything out on it but it was red with gold trim (the sticker), similar to the stickers you will see on vintage Japanese figures and pieces. My phone was in the car and this was on the 3rd floor so no pics (sorry!), but any guesses on this one? Many colors involved with the floral design and the glass itself was "Hershey kiss" shaped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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