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Wirepull windings!


Chris Parson

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I think I knew this before but now… I can’t figure it out. 
Veiligglass wirepull has become my target when I look for marbles at second hand stores. I recognize one when I see it. But some time ago I gut some German wirepulls from @Mojo and when I looked at them yesterday I was baffled because I couldn’t really tell them apart from some of my recent Veiligglass wirepulls. Am I losing it or have I mistaken it all in some way…?

Here are the Germans…

 

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It's a tough question, Chris. To me, the striping in the marbles you show seems less smooth and flowing than the striping on most Veiligglas marbles I'm familiar with. Here are a couple of groups WInnie posted in 2016:

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17 minutes ago, Ric said:

It's a tough question, Chris. To me, the striping in the marbles you show seems less smooth and flowing than the striping on most Veiligglas marbles I'm familiar with. Here are a couple of groups WInnie posted in 2016:

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Fantastic pictures, Ric and thank you Winnie! 🕯️💚
If we return to this thread of mine, I would be uncertain that 1, possibly 2 and 3 are Veiligglass. :unsure:

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23 minutes ago, Chris Parson said:

Fantastic pictures, Ric and thank you Winnie! 🕯️💚
If we return to this thread of mine, I would be uncertain that 1, possibly 2 and 3 are Veiligglass. :unsure:

This conversation would be much simpler if we had big handfuls of verified examples of each type to compare. I really don't even know what the full range of variations in Veiligglas marbles is.

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Type 1 Veiligglas i was told 

Wirepull 

German is also possible , but no tag on the nets 

Came from an old store depot near Amsterdam 

So again...type 1 veiligglas 

Type 2 are the stacked lined ones 

Type 1 are wirepulls 

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9 hours ago, Ric said:

It's a tough question, Chris. To me, the striping in the marbles you show seems less smooth and flowing than the striping on most Veiligglas marbles I'm familiar with. Here are a couple of groups WInnie posted in 2016:

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All type 2 , from the blue ones maybe 6 are type 1 ✌

 

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I don't know that anyone has any proof that any of the wirepulls types above were produced in Germany. I have no doubts that Veiligglas company marbles were packaged and sold in Germany. We were searching for proof from actually made in Germany when Winnie finally found the evidence of the Veiligglas factory and its history.  Maybe someone has proof of any machine made marble factory in Germany. There most likely was but we just have not found any proof yet that I am aware of. Years past most were just labeled as European swirls or German wirepulls. I know WWII destroyed much of any evidence there may have been. 

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 I asked a collector of marbles who lives on the border of Germany and yes, as Ron also says, no document has ever been found that they were also produced in Germany, one can only suppose.

The guy I spoke to thought they were also produced in Germany, the most beautiful, densest ones, because he often found them in Germany along with German slag and even German artifacts.

Perhaps, it seems, they were produced even before the Second World War

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