Steph

Somewhere along the way I heard that "mib" was the Latin word for marble. But is that so? That seems like some pretty esoteric vocabulary for people to be aware of - to know what Romans called their little round toys? lol. Maybe it's the Latin word for the stone?

For handmades, I'd definitely recommend Paul Baumann's, Collecting Antique Marbles. I have the 3rd and 4th editions. Was happy with the 3rd. Added the 4th because of its section on reproductions.

That would be great! Thank you.

This World's Fair Master agate box was recently posted at LOM. I remember seeing one before, pretty sure. And/or a similar box with two agates in it. I'm pretty sure it was posted here when it came up on ebay a few years ago. But that's the last one I remember seeing? Just how rare are these? Anyone here have one ... or have pix of one? Thanks!

That really is cool, Rich.

I saw the distortion but thought some of the marbles were just out of round! Your seeming pride in your footballs made me want to go fish out some of the out-of-round ones I had shoved to back shelves! I guess the football being in the back right corner on each photo might have been a clue that something was amiss. Sorry - no idea about how to fix distortion.

Lotsa lobes: http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/9134078 http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/6155550

One dictionary definition is that a lobe is "a rounded projection". So I think that's what you're looking for with the lobes. 4 lobes being 4 bulges in the core. I think "lobes" are different from "panels". I mention that because I think I've seen some people describing 4-panel onionskins as 4-lobed onionskins.

I wouldn't have been able to tell on all of them individually, but the bright white on some of them in the foreign rows tipped me off. ( :

Is the red one oxblood? I posted a link at Glass Addiction asking them to have a look: http://glasswizzards.yuku.com/topic/3594/Marble-ID-SOS

That's what I thought you said. Still keeping my same guess. Guessing foreign on top row and 3rd row down. ( : ... so completely opposite of Rich's guess?

#1 (top) and #3? (Which I'm only guessing because you said there were two.) Edit: Silly me. I didn't say what I was guessing those rows were! I was guessing they were foreign!

Examples from Morphy: Divided core: http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/9133893 Single ribbon: http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/9133892 Naked ribbon: http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/1733073

Galen, did you mix up "naked core" and "coreless"? When I first saw the question I was thinking the same as you but now that ZZ has posted I'm like "oh right!" In Collecting Antique Marbles, Baumann allows for ribbon marbles to have either one or two ribbons. (He says it's debatable with 2 ribbons would count as a double ribbon or a divided core.) He also seems to apply the term "naked" only to the ribbon style marble - when there are no outer bands, like ZZ says. (So then would Baumann apply the word naked to a double ribbon?) And then the divided core has more parts inside. Baumann says the production style of the divided core is similar to that of the ribbon core. But a divided core is still considered a different type from a ribbon core.

Oooolala. Them's some dandies!!! So . Much . Color . No opalescence in the first cork when you backlight it?

I didn't even know you had my address! That box full of marbles caught me by surprise!

Here are some slags (circa 1920's):

right place at the right time - that's pretty glass.

yes to the oxide.

From Henry Hellmer's batch book. Has both iron and copper, and then more copper in the brass. And lotsa zinc. From one of the "Carnelian Opal Glasses" pages: Copper Carnelians for Marbles Akro Agate Co. 12-1-25 H.T.H. OK. Sand: 1120 Soda: 410 Borax: 10 Red Iron Ox.: 45 Red Ox Cop.: 45 Limestone: 130 Brass Dust: 45 Zinc Ox.: 90 Formula page: http://i119.photobuc...odFormula_a.jpg (1600 x 1200)

I'm getting the feeling that they may have used the name "Carnelian" and "Cornelian" interchangeably in the early years. And maybe to them the name(s) would have applied interchangeably to both of the nontransparent red & white marble types available in the teens and 20's. That would make sense in that time, I think, because carnelian and cornelian are names for the same kind of stone. IIUC. Their Dec. 1914 Clarksburg ad says Red Striped Carnelian: http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o151/modularforms/Akro/1914_12_ClarksburgAkro_Playthings_b.jpg And Hellmer's batch book gives a recipe for "Copper Carnelians for Marbles" for Akro Agate with a date of 12-1-25. But of course boxes and other ads we know of from that era say Cornelians. So maybe it was pretty much the same to them and they only made distinctions between the copper-based and non-copper-based types when it was time to mix up the recipe?

Interesting!!

Sometimes they do have something inside but that's not what the marble makers planned for us to pay attention to. The skin is about the ... skin. Here's what you could see under an onion's skin but that's supposed to be hidden. lol. http://marbleconnection.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=7520

Yah. Not saying there are none with yellow tint but I have some pretty clear bases in my Master box and some came from original Master bags.

I don't know why you think the clear base rules out Master. This is the first I've heard about them having yellow base glass. That doesn't ring true with my memory. *fishing out Master box*