Steph

Wow, those are KEWL! You'd mentioned that tradition before. It's great to see what they look like. To find even one in a city that size but all of those. I'm seriously impressed. I would be the one who thought they'd be all gone so what was the point in hunting.

I think probably more than one company new and old used Manganese. I've had a variety of orange glowers. ... also had some other colors. Sometimes you have to move the bright glowers out of the way to see the other colors but they're kinda neat when you notice them. Had an Akro Popeye which had four or five colors under blacklight, but no way could I see them if a Lemonade was anywhere near. Jabo classics can do some pretty funky things under blacklight. Also had some modern Marble Kings (and some jars) which glowed a rather cool blue shade.

I think those are Chinese murrini.

SO SO sorry! I did not know! Obviously! What a dope I am. *slapping self repeatedly about the face and neck* .... and your profile says your gender is male. I totally didn't notice that ... *sheepish*

what she said

There's another element ... begins with M ... which can cause an orange glow. Magnesium? Manganese? Ebay says Manganese. lol. I wouldn't usually take ebay for an authority but this guide which came up has some great pix so it must be right! (lol) Anyway, the pix are cool: http://reviews.ebay.com/FLUORESCENT-Glowing-MANGANESE-Glass-similar-to-Vaseline_W0QQugidZ10000000000103952

Migbar? I don't know. Who?

The most expensive marble I've ever seen a dollar figure for was another naked ribbon core.

What name would you give it? "Naked ribbon core"? "Naked corkscrew ribbon core"? ?

June 24, 1949 The Marble King company is incorporated in St. Marys, WV. The incorporators on record are Berry Pink, Lucius Coleman and Adele Rubin. Sellers Peltier is also reported to have been a partner early on. They are using the old Alley plant which Berry Pink acquired from Lawrence Alley "for the sum of $5.00 and other good and valuable considerations ..." For a time they sold left over Alleys under the Marble King label, possibly also selling Peltier marbles under the label. Alley swirls show up in Marble King ads as late as 1954. The plant manager was Roger Howdyshell, who would later own the company. Pink handled sales and promotions from his base in New York. Source: American Machine-Made Marbles, Six, Metzler and Johnson

Speaking of Rainbos!

Different people do seem to use transparent and translucent in different ways. Marbles which look "almost transparent" when backlit but where the base isn't actually clear enough to see into are "translucent" to me. But I think some are calling 'em transparent. I don't object ... I just keep it in mind .....

November 1932 Berry Pink is mentioned in a Playthings Magazine article as the sales manager for the Rosenthal Company, and as the inventor of that double compartment bag. The bag was apparently a hit in the 1931/32 season. I have a partial copy of the article. Post #5 in this thread, Rosenthal Dates -- A 1932 Article, gives one possible reading of the missing pieces. I think I at least have the gist right anyway.

April 22, 1931 Patent #1,872,640 for a double compartment marble bag is filed. Patent issued on Aug. 16, 1932. Assigned to the Rosenthal Company. See the patent Example: See here for more pix and a 1933 ad showing the bag for sale: Berry Pink Double Compartment Mesh Bag

Is that KO and KB? If so then my suggestions are: Kevin O'Grady Ken Ostrow Keith Baker Kaj Beck Kathleen Boyer Keith Bryan Edit: Add Kevin Bumble to that list. That's based purely on their initials. Not on any knowledge of their work.

Thanks, Dan. Good of you.

June 25, 1962 The New York Times reports the passing of the Marble King. In case it is not apparent, some of the biographical information is wrong. (click for larger version - might have to double click depending on your browser)

And a lot of other stuff happens! (space reserved )

April 8, 1930 Berry Pink, age given as 30, is said to reside at 74 Lincoln St. His mother is now the head of household. Brother Erwin and Erwin's wife (can't make out the name) also live there. Berry's occupation: Executive for a rubber mill. (That would be Morris Rosenthal's rubber mill.) He says he's a veteran of the World War.

January 2, 1920 Beery (sic) Pink, age 22, lives at 74 Lincoln St. in Passaic with his family. Occupation: salesman, silk co. 48-year-old Meyer is a hotel proprietor. 47-year-old Anna is not employed. 23-year-old Louis is a hotel clerk. 18-year-old Irving is a manager of a cloak store. 15-year-old Evelyn appears to still be in school.

August 18, 1897 Berry Pink appears to have been Pink's original name. I wasn't sure because his name showed up in different ways in the censuses. In one census his name is given as Benjaman, for example. But for now 'Berry' is looking correct. This is what I have to start him off. Berry Pink New Jersey Births and Christenings, 1660-1980 birth: 18 Aug 1897 — Passaic City, Passaic, New Jersey residence: New Jersey, United States parents: Meyer Pink, Annie Horwitz I'm still curious about some of the name changes. Do they mean middle names? Or ?? His family members' names also changed from census to census. He had a brother who went by both Isreal, Irving and Erwin/Irwin. Makes me wonder if I'm getting a tiny glimpse into how immigrant families assimilated into the culture. Or if maybe they just changed their names from time to time, just because. I know that happened too. Kids grow up. They get tagged with different names.

I don't know. I wish I did. Anyone else experiencing that?

I have a slowly growing collection of single seam marbles I'd like to expand faster and photograph someday. When they aren't Chrissie, I count them as oddballs. Here's my single seam marble king bumblebee.

Here are some boxes. None mine. The Berry Pink ones were Joeager's and now I think they belong to another board member. The first is Peltier. The others as noted are Berry Pink. Not identical (obviously ;-) but they all say "Champion Marbles" and have the same boy in the illustration. No reason to think there was any foul play. Berry Pink had some sort of interest in the Peltier company as early as the 30's.

Berry Pink or Peltier should both be okay. No reason to think either is a repro. Pink had a Peltier connection. I don't know if he was a part owner or if he was just a very close associate. But I'm pretty sure that's not the only example where they had same or similar boxes, with the Peltier name on some and Berry Pink on others. I'll try to rustle up the other example I have in mind.