Steph

I've been going through my list of old Akro links today. There was one to a thread about opaque sparklers. The thread's gone, but I still have these scans from it, from Baumann's Collecting Antique Marbles, 4th ed. Thought someone might consider them interesting. (as do I but I have my own copy of the book, so this is really for you ) (click to enlarge)

I've been wanting a thread for tournament memorabilia. So, here's a spot for someone (anyone who wishes) to add examples "sometime". I'll start it out with this Wildwood, NJ video making the rounds at the various boards today. South Jersey Video Magazine: 2006 National Marbles Championship. (Note: the video was very choppy the first time I listened. But when I played it again right afterwards, the delivery was very clear. )

Thanks Dani. Felicia, my cautious answer is "probably". We have to tread very gently with picture-less identifications! lol! But a popeye is a corkscrew, so if it looks enough like a popeye, it probably is a cork. (Plus, I remember seeing that one in the printed photos you snail mailed me, and I thought it might be a cork before you even mentioned it.) Btw, yours would have to have noticeable amounts of clear and wispy white glass in addition to the white base and blue and yellow ribbons before it was a "Popeye". But since it has three colors (white, blue and yellow), it at least qualifies to be what is known as a "Special". (imho) There are corkscrews with many colors in the same marble. One recent thread here had a theoretical discussion about how many colors a cork could have. The discussion went into the physical properties of the machinery used to create cork ribbons. I'll try to find a link to that.

I'm trying to update my lists of interesting threads. One broken link once went to a thread called "Odd Akro". I had made a note beside the link saying it was about the direction of spin of a corkscrew but I don't remember what direction the Akro in question spun, so I don't know what was odd! I figure if it was an interesting question then, it might be interesting now, so IS one direction of spin more common than another for corks? If so, which one? And how much more common is it? What do your own samplings tell you? 60% of the small sample in my house spiral in what I think of as a clockwise fashion. With a sample size as small as mine, 60% is pretty much the same as 50%, statistically speaking, so I can't draw a conclusion from my bunch.

well dear friend ... nope, my whopper is a genyuwine vacor sunset!

Roger, regarding your A to my Q ... If you saw a marble above an inch which looked like it could be a Master, would the size have the power to make you say, "No, not master, gotta be something else"? A monetary translation of the question would be something along the lines of, if you found a marble for sale tomorrow which looked totally like a sunburst, but it was 1.2" wide, how much would you pay for it? If the seller was asking a price consistent with "too rare to value", would you think about paying it? Or would you walk away unless he came down to a, "this is interesting, I don't believe it's a Master, but it's still unusual" price? Jane, sweet pink!

Though I hope I'll find more among the threads I haven't yet read, there aren't a lot of Master threads on the board. When they happen, a wide of assortment of examples might be put in the same thread. So, even though most of the categories below have nothing in them, they are keywords for some of the things you might see in the "Various examples" and "Picture gallery" threads. Master Marble Company/Master Glass Company (1930-1973) See also Original Packaging Various examples and discussions: Master Timeline What kind of patch is this one please? Master Or Modern ?? (many examples in Post #16) Masters The Master Marble/glass Show And Info Thread Master Shooters Masters Master Marble Bag, Is this a rare bag ? Master Glass Vs. Master Marble More About Master Packaging Purple Shooters Master Brand Names? Ephemera & Extras: Master Shooters (postcard) Master Made Bag Sunburst: Mostly Pix - Master-made Brushed Patch: Master?? (with extra color inside ... is it a sunburst as Roger/Sword44 seems to have suggested?) Clear/white Marble I Have Cloudy: Master Cloudys Comet: Meteor: Moss Agate Type Marbles Akro, Master, Peltier, Alley, who else? Unique: Tiger Eye: Id Please.., Master Marble? tiger eye? Mostly Pix - Master-made Name Game (see post #3) Crab Claws: Oxblood? Master Oxblood...., anyone seen any? Cat's Eyes: Master Picture Gallery: The Master Marble/glass Show And Info Thread Mostly Pix - Master-made Master-made

Thanks John ... I've been waiting for you to choose when to show that card. If I hadn't known you were the new owner it would have been posted weeks ago!

Yup, John had it. That's where I'd seen it before, his postcard of "the Master Marble House on the Enchanted Island", which he has now so nicely added here. The pre-written note on the back says, The drawing of the house says "Master Marbles Shop" on it. I guess you'd go into that bubbly glass building and buy your College Collection sets and who knows what all! Talk about a hefty advertising budget! My next question is how long did the house of marbles stand?!

From the amazing treasure trove of MarbleBert: Auction description:

Time for the 1893 Chicago World's Fair, aka the Columbian Expo. Here is "a novel invention". It's a dish! It's a souvenir! It's a game! The Crystal Sphere World's Fair Game. "Who can, in the least time, roll the sphere over the earth and have it stop in Chicago." (auction photos)

Needs updating. Lots of threads from the last year need to be added. If you have any favorites, feel free to let me know here or by PM. Christensen Agate Company (1925-1933) See also Original Packaging Company history: Joemarbles.com: Christensen Agate LOM: Arnold Fiedler Various examples and discussion: Don't These Go For Around A Hundred Bucks? (There's an interesting comment in post #4. I need to try to find the pix which were in post #1.) Electric Orange Slags C.a. Guinea Fragment With Visible Shear Mark... Vegas Catch!! One Of These Is Different., Five are from the same company Did Christensen Agate Make Opaque White-based Swirls? Ole' Yeller ?, ???????? Marblelairium: CAC slide show A True Conundrum, Some CACs are just wrong Would Either Of These Be Considered A "road And Tunnel" Design? Cac Marble Mail, She's a beauty! (nice mibs and some discussion of seam counts) Slags (aka Onyx): Ca-9 Peach Slag (this appears to be a CAC transparent swirl rather than a slag) Ebay Is Messing Me Up. (beautiful peach) Three To Id (Peach slag(s) in Post #5.) Peach Pretender (not CAC ) Single Seam Slag Or Striped Transparent ???, 3/4" CA "slag" Vs. "onyx" Yellow Orange Slags, photo reference Cac Orange Slag?, I believe it to be... Some Nice Ice Hand-gathered: C.A. Handgathered Mibs CAC Guineas: Godzilla Guinea c.a. "OO" guinea box red guinea (rare) A Fowl Pair Of Guinea's, WHAT NO FEATHERS !!!! Privately Aquired Cobalt Guinea And Others, Please tell me what you think A Few Of My Guineas, also found in the wild bib's required!! Cobras/Cyclones: Cobra?, yes, but how would I guess without being told? My Newest Beauty Christensen Flame And Cobra?, help I.D Cobras ... Single Stream ??? Submarine: Blue Ray...no Way....???? Various Swirls: 4-color Ca Striped Opaque -- Not!, Am I right? Cac Or Alley? (follow-up to preceding discussion) My Golden Rebel., Its not like yours Pretty Ca Flames: Turkeys: Just Needs Dressing. Diaperfold: Ca-9 Bloodies: CAC, "Worlds Best Bloodies"?, Need others input Transparent Swirls: Cac Trans Swirls, Very Cool Striped Opaques: Striped Transparents: Single Seam Slag Or Striped Transparent ???, 3/4" CA Layered Sand: What Is It?, Layered sand (see post #6) Blue Lace: Looks Like Lace, What Could It Be.......... American Agates: Mostly Pix - Christensen Agate Company (Post #2) Blue Ray: C.A. Handgathered Mibs (post #10) Blue Ray...no Way....???? Jenny: CAC, "Worlds Best Bloodies"? Bloodie, Red Jenny Or Slag? Cac Trans Swirls, Very Cool Orange Peel: A Rare Christensen, "orange Peel" Marble Peewees: Shooters: Cac Shooters On Ebay Pastels: C.A. Handgathered Mibs Cac Pastels (includes links to archived copies of Pete's page about his box of "pastel opaques") Snotties: Oxblood? Cac Oxblood? Exotics? CA cullet (long and involved discussion) Cullet: Yellow Wanted: Cac Bloodie, And Basic Cac White Base I Got To Wondering After The Speculation (guinea half) CAC Picture Gallery: Mostly Pix - Christensen Agate Company

For fun and info and because it's just so cool, here's a web-friendly size copy of the pic Steve (n2marbles) posted of his world's fair bag with the shooter dwarfing the other marbles. He said I could use it for the thread. Ain't it kewl! And big! Steve, is that a sunburst?

There are a lot of links I need to add to this, but I need to get back to reading old threads to find them all. If you have any recent favorites, I'd love to hear about them here or by PM. Peltier Glass Company (1886-present) Caches of information have been building up at other sources since I started this thread. See also: Original Packaging Peltier Timeline Mostly Pix - Peltier The factory: Pics From Ottowa Il, The Peltier Glass Co. Various examples and discussions: Peltier First And Second Runs? This is new to me (some good history) Idle Question For An Expert (slag and NLR discussion, more good history) Comics & Ppps (More good history) Pelt Pieces Need To Verify This Marble (the Peltier flip-flop) Show Me Your Grey Based Pelts! My Rainbos Are Sick (dirty bubble syndrome) Question For Pelt Collectors? (I would still like to hear more about this!) Peltier Lantern Wasp Bee Hybrid? Opaque Red Based Peltier (it's sometimes difficult to determine the base color) I Wanna See Your Rainbows, Any size any maker A Controversial Thread (Superman vs. Superboy, and other stuff) Slags (National Onyx): The Sky is Blue, say what? Something For The Pelt Lovers... (assorted slag colors) A Little Something For The Peltier Lovers... Peltier White Slags? Peltier Poll (follow-up to clear pelt slag discussion here) Mostly Pix - Gropper Miller Swirls? A Controversial Thread (see post 21) Pelt Mail !!, The Most Underated Pelts..... Multi-Color Swirls: Best Viewed In Hd Unusual Pelt Pelt Mail !!, The Most Underated Pelts..... Comics: Mostly Pix - Peltier Dumb As A Rock, Sometimes ya cant see for looking Someone needs to add a decent textbook explanation about the comics reproduction boxes. I'll try to remember when I run across the explanation again. Peerless Patches: Grandparent's Collection, Need Help With Id & Values! Marble Mail, Extra NICE Peltier Patch (Bruiser) Un-corked Corks, Or ... ?, (2 for ID) Calling All Peerless Patch Lovers!!, "Smoke 'em if you got 'em!" Later Peerless Patches Identifying Peltier Peerless Patch Marbles Fun With Peerless Patches (Comic marbles, with some "normal" patches, along with some wild shapes) Pearlized Patch: Could This Be A Pearlized Peltier Patch On Blue? Calling All Peerless Patch Lovers!! "Smoke 'em if you got 'em!" (See post 19) Show Us Your Favorite Patches! (Patry's patches in Post #13) Acme Realer: Moss Agate Or Cloudy Type Marbles, Akro, Master, Peltier, Alley, who else? (box in post #3) IDing Acme Realers from Pictures, (can be tricky!) Name Game (Post #1) Acme Realers Honey Onyx: Whatcha Think? (Post #8) Mostly Pix - Peltier (Post #10) NLR vs. Rainbo: Would this be NLR or Rainbo?, Does it have a name? Is It A Bird, Is It A Plane --- Superman, right?? Colors Of The Rainbo Colors Are Right For A Pelt Sub, But..., I don't think it is... NLR anyways?? Nlrs Vs. Rainbos, Am I confused? Pelt Rainbo Names Pelt Pieces Pelt? Talk To Me About This Pelt Please (this has the myth in it about rainbo ribbons running deep and NLRs being more at the surface.) "Tweeners" (possibly late NLR to early Rainbo) Pelt Rainbo ? Pelt? (wide ranging NLR vs. Rainbo discussion) Tracers? Bloodies? Rainbos? Huh? (just found out that Bloodies came in National Marbles boxes as well as the more modern big value assortment style - they might be true tweeners) The Peltier Timeline: Cool Oddball Pelt Rainbo, (haven't seen one before) Peltier Windshield marbles revisited A Peltier, new one for me Later Peerless Patches National Marbles Or National Line, Which Came First? Pelt Rainbo Names Various NLR's: (if you think any of these threads don't actually have NLR's in them, please let me know) Need To Verify This Marble (the tell-tale peltier flip-flop on a Ketchup and Mustard) Never Seen Before, Peltier ("Blue Deere", you might say) Yellow Adventurine, On Pelt's of course (Golden Rebel) Pelt Question From Exciteable (Golden Rebel) Pelt Chocolate Cow Peltier Burnt Xmas Tree! Superman Oddity Killer Peltier K&ms (also a liberty) Is This A Blue Galaxy ???, Auction Pic from this morning.....I lost Northeast Marble Meet (Green Galaxy in post #5) MM: Why Blue Galaxy? (Green Galaxy in post #7) Look What I Caught Galen Doing On Camara!, Orange County Show Hey Scott!! It's Here.., The Pelt Bengal Tiger! Its The Mailman Again Pelt Panda? Rarest Pelts?, Anyone own one? (Zebra vs. Panda, pix in Post #6, plus a lot of other great mibs) Name That Pelt! Please.... (Blue Pandas in post #11) Marble Pictures (brown zebra) Peltier Post - Part Two - Cool Zebra W Green Aventurine Hey Hey Hey Heres A Pelt !!!, got a name for it ? (anemic Bumble Bee) Unusual Peltier, wannabe golden rebel ???? (Ruby Bee) A Couple Of Nice Ones (blue bee) Blue Aventurine In Older Mibs Can you show some examples please? (blue bee) Could This Be A Peltier Sub? Name Game (Superman, Spiderman, K&M, Cub Scout, John Deere, Christmas Tree) Whats This Un Number2 (is this a brown traveller? I've seen many different looking marbles identified as brown traveller.) Does Any One Have One Like This . Peltier (See Post #5. Is it a brown traveller and/or moody blue or neither?) Peltier Green Lantern?!?! (Green Hornet and Green Lantern) Taking Advantage Of The Name Game???, or is this ligit??? (Discussion about a "Black and Blue", or "Blue and Black", and a Bruiser -- the Bruiser would be a different marble?) Better Yet (Orange Rebel) Miller Greycoat Pelt ? (Golden Dragon) Rare Peltier Nlr Pink (Strawberries N Cream) Some names I've seen before, left here now as a reminder of things to look for later: Flaming Dragon Flaming Golden Dragon Lemon Lime (and other green & yellow pelts?) Gecco Red Zebra Blue Zebra Angels: Name Of This Pelt??, an angel? Marble Mail Citrus Set (NLR's): Does This Pelt Have A Name? yesterdays marblemail, citrus set (some history) A Very Very Touchy Subject Blueberry Anyone? Is This A Peltier Liberty Or What? Various rainbos: Mostly Pix - Peltier (Big Value boxes full of rainbos in post #6 and 9, mesh bags with rainbos in post #4) Unknown Vintage Marble My New Marble Box (old box, marbles not orginal to the box is the marble bag original?) Are These **pelts** Hard To Find ? 3 Color, A slice of keylime Some Fav Rainbos!, What are yours 2 Cool Pelts, Anyone Have One Like These? Black-based Rainbos Baseball: Name Game (Post #22) Clown: My Find Labed #13, hope this is a peltier clown Copperhead: Anyone Have A Pelt Copperhead, for sale or trade? (They're not NLRs? I did not know that!) Windshield: Peltier Windshield marbles revisited A Simple Rainbo.. Id Help Please....vitro Or Ca? Windshield Again Transparent Base: Cool Crystal Clear Peltier Rainbo Id Help For Ebay Listing, Vitro's or peltier clear rainbos Transparent base wasp Peltier... Am I Right On The Name? (clear ketchup and mustard) Transparent Peltier 6 fingers, pelt vs. vitro with similar look 13/16 Orange Rainbo (?), we had a thread about these before Nlrs Vs. Rainbos, Am I confused? Tri-color Rainbo: Champion Jr.: We Are The Champions? Tracers: Name Of This Pelt??, an angel? Peltier Tracer, is this a common color Tracers 7-ups: Name Game (Post #5) Sunsets: Bloodies: Mostly Pix - Peltier (Post #6) Muddies: Look At These Two Father And Son. Ha, Ha. What Kind Of Peltiers Are These? Woodies: A few pelts, Note: a few hundred (post #48 at present -- could change if something else is merged) Broken corks: Definitions (Post #6) Banana Cat's Eyes: Banana Weeekend Finds, How'de you make out this weekend Is This A Pelt Or Master Cat Eye Experimentals: Experimental Cat's eyes? Other Pelt experimentals? Peewees: Pelt Pee-wee Cat's-eyes ????, Galen's " Little Pretty " has me wondering. Pelt Baby Rattle Ohh Yeah Shameless Peltier Plug Christmas In June Sit A Spell And Tell Me More About Peewees Shooters: Id Help Please....vitro Or Ca? Did Peltier Make Alot Of 1 Inch Marbles..??? Weeekend Finds, How'de you make out this weekend Peltier Juicy Fruit Aventurine discussion: Yellow Adventurine, On Pelt's of course Fluorescence discussion: tba: most link which comes to mind is not available Oxblood? Odd One Oxblood Line Different Pelts Metallic? LOM: Pelt? -- since attachments are periodically removed at LOM, here is Al's pic: (click to enlarge) Nova group, including Rootbeer Floats: May 2009: So Whats The Scoop On Peltier Rootbeer Floats, were they only made in a limited size? This is a pretty powerful thread summarizing information about Rootbeer Floats, Novas, and other members of the extended Nova family. Contributors include David Chamberlain who before this has often been quoted but not been online to contribute personally. I'll keep the other links below at least for the time being, but this is where you should start for an introduction and return to for a summary. (in my opinion - thanks! -sch, 5/22/2009) Look What I Caught Galen Doing On Camara!, Orange County Show Pelt Novas Believe It Or Not (this is a follow-up of sorts to the preceding link) Peltier Nova History L@@k !!! My Very First Peltier Root Beer Float !!!, Thank you so much Carole Pelt Root Beer Float MM: Root Beer Floats, Novas, and Pink Champagnes (article by David Chamberlain) NOT Rootbeers: First of all, if it is not a large marble, 7/8" or 15/16", you already know it cannot be a rootbeer. They were limited edition marbles, all large, all made on a single day in 1989. If This Aint A "peltier Root Beer Float" Then What Is It?, The experts say no! and i wana know why? Is This A Root Beer Float? Peltier Root Beer Float?, I think i hit the jackpot!! Other discussion: Peltier Red Root Beer Float Type. Help. "First Run" and "Second Run": Pelts, 1st & 2nd runs First Run Pelts Other unusual examples: Unusual Peltier, for the pelt lovers.... New Pelt (wow, what a "V"!) Help Identify ("Polar Bear") Purple Ribbon Pelt Peltiers (golden debris) A Little Unusual (check out the bifurcated pelt in the middle of the pic in Post #4) Mica In A Pelt ?, look at this !!!!!! (silvery bubbles) Lemme' See All Your "junk" Mibs!! Bad Boy Rainbos "Triple" seam? Cullet and/or dug: Just A " Piece " Of My Mind !!!! Cool New Nlr Addition..., with some grey (interesting NLR, plus discussion about dug pelts) Peltier Picture Gallery: A few pelts, Note: a few hundred Couple Of New Big Ones, Note: very pretty pelts Todays Marble Mail Peltier: Your Best/rarest Three Secondary Peltiers (There are definitely more pelt picture parades on the board. It's a matter of finding the links.)

Is this the post you had in mind, The Master Marble/glass Show And Info Thread? Did you happen to notice the shooter in n2marbles' bag? Not a clearie. Maybe a Sunburst, maybe not, but definitely not a clearie. The only non-clearie boulder I recall "seeing" in original packaging.

Elizabeth, following another line of thought, I was just wondering if you would have a pic of plain old banana cat's eyes in assorted colors you could add here? The common cats are soooooooooooo hard to find pix of!

I dunno. Maybe we could get a clue from the Mirro cookie press though? I'd guess it has something to do with the shape of the spigot the colored glass comes out of. For instance, if there's an open x-shape, maybe that'd explain the connected vanes. But four unconnected little lines for the glass to stream out of would give four separate vanes? Could it be as simple as that?

Thanks for your numbers, John, and I'll try to find that thread. What got me thinking about it today was the big 'un in n2marbles' 1933 world's fair bag. I was just looking at it, enjoying the original packaging, when wham all of a sudden I realized I was staring at a shooter. I never noticed it before!

There's been some debate over large-sized Master's. I have no idea what the consensus opinion is on how big they got, or how common big ones were. Or what styles big ones were found in. I would like to hear more about that.

This link has some pix of College Collection boxes from the fair. This link has a rare bag from the fair. Note that it says, Visit Master's House of Marbles. . . . p.s. the bag has a shooter which looks like it could be of the sunburst variety! Somewhere I've read a description of Master's House of Marbles. I could barely believe it when I read it. I really need to find that! Anyone here have it?

If you're interested in owning cool marble-related things, check out Marble Bert's auctions. And check it out soon. Don't know how much longer anyone could keep these things coming. Really great stuff! Tournament winner medals, catalogs, postcards, statues of kids playing marbles, and on and on.

This might be a fun site to browse through. Apparently you can have jewelry and keychains made with your own marbles. And change the marbles in and out. Got All Your Marbles?, Jewelry with Interchangeable Marbles ******************************************* ******************************************* Another neat site: Artistic Stemware They make glasses with Vacor marbles: I think there was some discussion of the artist using her own marbles. Might have some by now. ******************************************* ******************************************* Marblies! http://www.marblies.com/

Baseballs: The pelt rainbo is mine. Don't know whose the ball is. And here are some Bruce Troeh baseballs, 1" and 3/8", from the 2006 season, as presented by Marble Bert on eBay.

While I'm thinking about it here's one of the other kind of stoppers, one with the marble built into the lid. It was posted here in 2005 by lifeisgood81.

That was very interesting ... and very complicated. I'm sure I didn't understand it all. Just enough to think that I might get it if I try again when my brain has had time to recover. Those inventors were getting really fancy.